<jonathan.cardy@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> I have been  involved in running groups with over twenty people. Both as
> host and as assistant. Lesson one, dont handle that many alone, ideally you
> need someone who can sort out IT issues and complex queries - so you keep
> the group running whilst the person whose article was deleted last year gets
> one to one.
>
> I  prefer editathon format with several tables and an experienced editor on
> each. But that does require a lot of regulars - easy in London, not
> elsewhere.
>
> Provided you pick subjects that are notable but obscure and you start with a
> reliable source then my experience is that touch wood you get more technical
> problems than community ones.
>
> Having one more spare laptop than was requested is also a good idea. Ideally
> a universal charger as well,  often as not someone will forget their
> charger. The UK chapter has 3 laptops for just this reason.
>
> As for visual editor, best to steer people well away from it, especially if
> you have a group with mixed IT such asbring your own laptops. You can be
> sure that some of those laptops will be a couple of years old and just too
> slow when running Visual editor.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 17 Oct 2013 09:49, "Hay (Husky)" <huskyr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wow, great to see all these pointers to learning resources. Very useful.
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience about using the new Visual Editor
>> instead of the good old Wiki editor?
>>
>> And another thing: does anyone have experiences with large groups (say
>> 20 people)? Is it better to do some small exercises at the same time
>> with the whole group, or is it better to give assignments and walk
>> around?
>>
>> Contributing some of my own experiences: i agree with Bob that the
>> 'social' lessons are more important than the 'technical' ones.
>> However, i've never run a workshop where there wasn't some kind of
>> kerfuffle with experienced editors on WP, and you can definitely use
>> that to your advantage to show how Wikipedia 'really' works.
>>
>> Also, it's important to let people create accounts *beforehand*
>> because you're going to run into the 5-per-ip account creation rule,
>> you could pass that if you're an admin, but if you're not it can be
>> quite a feat to get everyone an account.
>>
>> -- Hay
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 AM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Phoebe,
>> >
>> > Wikimedia Australia has been using the following as a short intro and
>> > primer
>> > for training workshop participants to help them set up an account before
>> > the
>> > training workshop.
>> >
>> > http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/File:Creating_an_Account.pdf
>> >
>> > It was designed by user:Bilby / Adam Jenkins especially for printing as
>> > a
>> > one page two-sided folded pamphlet.
>> >
>> > --
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Oct 16, 2013 9:39 AM, "phoebe ayers" <phoebe.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have an example of a "here's how to get started" handout
>> >> for
>> >> brand-new editors at an editing workshop?
>> >>
>> >> I'm thinking along the lines of a 1 page document... step 1, create an
>> >> account; step 2, add a userpage, step 3, try a copyediting task... etc.
>> >>
>> >> I've found this guide...
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BeginnersGuide
>> >>
>> >> But am wondering if there are any other examples, or anyone's made a
>> >> printable/shorter version. I'm sure I've seen something like this, but
>> >> can't
>> >> find it!
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> -- Phoebe
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >>
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