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From: Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
Date: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-GH] Report on "Talking
Wikipedia in Ghana"
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Thanks Rupert and I have already contacted Felix to talk about future
cooperation.
On 4 April 2014 13:59, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Von: "Felix Nartey" <flixtey(a)gmail.com>
> Datum: 04.04.2014 14:02
> Betreff: [Wikimedia-GH] Report on "Talking Wikipedia in Ghana"
> An: "Planning Wikimedia Ghana Chapter" <wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> Greetings all
>
> Last Saturday, Enock Nyamador, Raphael Berkye, Michael Mettle, Timothy
> Quarshie and I attended the Talk Wikipedia in Ghana event held by Kwaku, a
> Ghanaian but UK based Wikimedian.
>
> The event was one that I would say, was necessary and beneficial to all
> that were present. Basic thoughts about Wikipedia and how we can contribute
> locally were also touched on. Our presence was immediately known because of
> appearance in the T-shirts. Reverence was given to the PWMGH community. He
> intermittently sought our views on questions been asked and gave us the
> opportunity to pitch what the community here in Ghana does. We were also
> given the platform to have A hands on edit, where we took the entire
> audience through basic editing.
>
> Although I personally think it was successful, I generally reason that an
> event like this should be directed through the local Wikimedia community.
> This helps create our identity and reliefs doubts about what we do here. We
> must be the noticed as the frontiers for Wikimedia; this will enable people
> to learn that we are their link to Wikimedia here in Ghana and no need to
> look else where.
>
> We were able to recruit as usual, given the opportunity to meet with the
> folks at the open source community in Ghana and a few goodies grabBED for
> the community's use, which means more goodies for you!!
> Best
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Greetings all
Last Saturday, Enock Nyamador, Raphael Berkye, Michael Mettle, Timothy
Quarshie and I attended the Talk Wikipedia in Ghana event held by Kwaku, a
Ghanaian but UK based Wikimedian.
The event was one that I would say, was necessary and beneficial to all
that were present. Basic thoughts about Wikipedia and how we can contribute
locally were also touched on. Our presence was immediately known because of
appearance in the T-shirts. Reverence was given to the PWMGH community. He
intermittently sought our views on questions been asked and gave us the
opportunity to pitch what the community here in Ghana does. We were also
given the platform to have A hands on edit, where we took the entire
audience through basic editing.
Although I personally think it was successful, I generally reason that an
event like this should be directed through the local Wikimedia community.
This helps create our identity and reliefs doubts about what we do here. We
must be the noticed as the frontiers for Wikimedia; this will enable people
to learn that we are their link to Wikimedia here in Ghana and no need to
look else where.
We were able to recruit as usual, given the opportunity to meet with the
folks at the open source community in Ghana and a few goodies grabBED for
the community's use, which means more goodies for you!!
Best
--
*Felix Nartey | DSE CAL Bank Ltd. | Co-manager GBG TEMA
<https://plus.google.com/u/0/106882654487622047846/posts> **| Wikimedian
| About me <http://about.me/felix.nartey> | +233 263 564043 **| **Check
out!! <http://goo.gl/4oHJeQ>*
Hello!
Where is everyone gone to? :-D Any updates?
I think contributing to WIkipedia and WMF projects is what interests each
and everyone of us.
Well you're wondering what is my interest? Is simply everything. :-).
For those who are comfortable with digital maps (Open Street Maps [1],
Google Maps, Bing Maps, etc ). You can read about Coords [2] (This helps to
add coordinates to are articles representing places, towns,
Wikidata [3] is also a very good place to add Coord values and etc...
There is a lot .. Categorizing articles on Commons and Wikipedia,
Libraries, University Deparments, Tourist attractions, etc
I can't say all here, is just what interests you, and some of us here will
be able to help find your way out.
Let'e keep going..
If you don't get what am trying to say here, feel free to ask here, I or
anyone perso can help.
Regards.
- Enock
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord
3. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page
Hi all,
I am sorry if I was not clear in my earlier e-mail to Rexford (not on list).
I am a Wikimedian of over ten years standing. I have been a member of
Wikimedia UK since it was founded, but I am not, nor ever have been a
trustee or an employee.
However I am active on the WMUK Education Committee:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Education_Committee
However, this is a matter that has not been raised with that committee,
and I speak entirley for myself, and should not be regarded as a
spokesperson for Wikimedia UK.
Firstly, as a volunteer I did help deliver training at an event organised
by Kwaku in 2013:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_African_diaspora/Black_…
Wikimedia UK provided premises for the event and a member of staff to help
run the event (maybe they were there in a voluntary capacity)> Also
refreshments were provided, perhaps at Kwaku'a expense. However that was
not the impression I formed at the time.
Of course, I gave my time freely. However, although I could have claimed
travel expenses, as far as i can remember, I chose not to.
Another point I raised with Rexford was that in a private capacity,
nothing to do with WMUK, I am at the early stages of discussing an Open
Knowledge intiative which will involve a community group in Accra.
I would like to know whether he and/or WikimediaGh would be interested in
getting involved, in principle, in such an initiative.
Forgive me if I was presumptious in contacting Rexford first, but I did so
because I was already familiar with him since contacting him in June 2012
as regards the Black History Month editathon of that October:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Black_History_Month,_2012
It is only by looking at his contributions in preparation for this
response, that I noticed he had not made an edit on the WMUK wiki since
that time.
I quite understand Rexford's reservations about how WMUK handled the
matter, and equally his desire not to get further drawn into the
confusions which have consequentially arisen.
Also Rupert was kind enough to put a posting on the wikimediauk-l list:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2014-April/012022.html
Perhaps Rupert might consider whether it is appropriate to post it to this
list as well, or maybe it is simpler if those that are interested follow
the above link.
all the best
Fabian
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 14:43:30 +0200
> From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
> To: Planning Wikimedia Ghana Chapter
> <wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-GH] BritishBlackMusic.com
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> Thank you Fae for your continuous support in getting to the bottom of this
> issue. Currently, lessons to be learned depends on the WMUK. The event is
> over, and I'm sure 'The Kwaku' has already bloated up his CV once more
> saying he's been supported by the WMUK.
>
> I don't know what the WMUK are thinking now. Plus I don't know where 'The
> Kwaku' is at right now. Perhaps he's left Ghana back to his mother
> foundation, the WMUK.
>
> Once again, I don't know how many Wikimedia UK are in the world. The
> chapters website tell me there's one, but it seems there are several of
> WMUK around. I got an email from User:Leutha who didn't tell me who he/she
> was in relation to the Wikimedia UK, but expressed no knowledge as to the
> arrangements of 'The Kwaku's" event. I don't know if all WMUK board or
> members are aware that an event like that was to happen in Ghana the past
> week.
>
> What I don't know are many, and unfortunately, the Wikimedia UK have
> managed to confuse me properly. And they are doing so very well, because
> even though I raised the conflict of dates of the event of 'The Kwaku',
> still, the Wikimedia UK website is reflecting the date as 28th, meanwhile
> the event happened on the 29th
> https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Events
>
> Can I say I doubt the efficiency and professionalism of the WMUK, at least
> in this instance? If clearly they knew nothing about this event and didn't
> support in any way or the other, how long did they want someone to drag
> their name around before they take actions? If they still don't even know
> when their supported event happened, can something good be written home
> about?
>
> I'm glad some of our local Wikipedians were present (in their brand new
> Wikipedia branded T-Shirts) to support the event. I was tuned in live on
> Saturday to hear some parts of the event, and I can say for sure that such
> an opportunity with about 35 persons in attendance could have been
> *properly
> and better *converted into something *more *worthwhile if our local team
> were fully aware and allowed to take part in the event right from the
> start.
>
> Now that the whole show is over, I rest my case. Something could have been
> down before the event, but now that its over, its over.
>
> I hope and wish the confusion among the WMUK also rest. Please, Fae, can
> you tell the WMUK to change the date from 28th to 29th?
>
> Thank you Fae, enjoy your day.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 31 March 2014 08:10, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Apologies for delay in replying but I have been away.
>> >
>> > As previously stated our relationship as a chapter in this isntance is
>> with
>> > Kwaku as a volunteer.
>> >
>> > We organised an editathon last year with BTWSC/BBM as you know. Not
>> funding
>> > was involved.
>>
>> It might be an idea to let one of your employees handle international
>> events and answer questions like these when you are on holiday rather
>> than leaving a silence. Questions were raised as far back as 20th
>> March, which is a long time in advance of the event for there to be no
>> answers on basic logistics or matters of governance and reputation.[1]
>>
>> I am puzzled by your statement that WMUK ran an editathon last year in
>> partnership with BritishBlackMusic.com without offering to support
>> with any expenses. For the workshop on Saturday in Accra, the UK did
>> provide funding and official merchandizing though the amount paid or
>> promised has not been published.
>>
>> I am concerned that your statement that there was no relationship with
>> BTWSC or BritishBlackMusic.com for Saturday's workshop in Ghana as you
>> are retrospectively contradicting the published advertizing:
>> * Wikimedia UK's events page listed the workshop with a link of
>> "BritishBlackMusic.com_in_assn_with_BTWSC/Wikimedia_UK" which is an
>> unambiguous claim that BritishBlackMusic.com were providing it in
>> association with Wikimedia UK.[2]
>> * The official Eventbrite listing states that the workshop in Accra
>> was organized by BritishBlackMusic.com and that this was officially
>> supported by Wikimedia UK.[3]
>>
>> Wikimedia UK was alerted to these questions well in advance of the
>> workshop. Why did you take no corrective action before the wokshop if
>> the advertising by BritishBlackMusic.com falsely claimed a partnership
>> with Wikimedia UK?
>>
>> Wikimedia UK did not contact the local Wikimedian community in Ghana,
>> a significant failure to use the opportunity to create positive
>> relationships with the proto-chapter there, or to ask them for help to
>> ensure that the money the UK chapter was spending was put to best use.
>> Luckily, the local community took the initiative to coordinate their
>> own attendance and response.[4] However there are serious questions
>> about the UK charity's management and support of this workshop:
>> * "I'm not being jealous or envious here for the Wikimedia UK
>> 'empowering' Kwaku, but the question is, on what basis was he given
>> such a privilege? The less than 50 edits? Or because he's
>> black-skinned and says verbally he comes from Ghana?"
>> * "Even after your asking, [no] email has *officially* come in from
>> [Wikimedia UK]. We're just negligible in their eyes."
>>
>> As you have a personal interest in inter-chapter relations, you may
>> wish to follow-up to ameliorate this damage to the reputation of the
>> charity. As you took time to remind me 11 days ago, it is up to you
>> what you wish to spend your time on.
>>
>> [Adding wikimedia-gh as I have quoted statements on that public list
>> in this email.]
>>
>> Links:
>> 1.
>> https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Water_cooler&diff=54401&oldid=54…
>> 2. https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Events&oldid=54679
>> 3.
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20140327135842/http://www.eventbrite.com/e/talki…
>> 4.
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-gh/2014-March/001510.html
>>
>> Fae
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