בתאריך 4 באוג׳ 2015 23:52,‏ "S Page" spage@wikimedia.org כתב:

I have a hard time keeping them straight. As I understand it

• Extension:ContentTranslation aids translation of _entire_ articles

between _separate wikis_ . If you don't visit Special:ContentTranslation you don't notice its operation.

This is mostly right, but of course you will see the articles created with its help as a reader and a recent changes patroller. They will also have a tag in the revision.

• Extension:Translate manages translation of article elements within a

_single multilingual wiki_ with its Special:Translate page.

I'd replace "article" with "page".

It also presents available localizations of an article on that wiki with

its <languages> tag.

Yes, it usually goes near the top, but can be anywhere.

Within a <languages> tag it supports <tvar|id> and <!--T:NN--> to

identify translatable elements

More precisely, the <translate> tag identifies translatable elements, <tvar|id> identifies elements that don't need translation (usually short ones, like URLs or numbers), and <!--T:NN--> numbers the translatable elements. It's possible to edit the latter, but it's strongly recommended not to touch these techie comments and to let the software add and remove them automatically.

(and confuse the average wiki editor :-) ;) ).

This is sadly true, and that's why ContentTranslation was made separately. Translate is for pages that change relatively rarely, and thar are rigidly planned and structured, like user manuals, policies and donations landing pages. It's (arguably!) acceptable for them to have some markup. ContentTranslation doesn't have any translation markup in the source article, because Wikipedia editors would rightly hate it, so it's very flexible, though it comes at a cost of not having full certainty about the correspondence and the synchronization between the source and the translation.

(But then how does Extension:Translate work on TranslateWiki to translate

arbitrary messages strings of non-wiki projects?)

That's what it was made for originally, before it supported page translation. Page translation was added later - it represents a page as a series of short chunks translatable one by one.

If I'm right, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension%3ATranslate

doesn't explain any of this. Can someone who knows Be Bold and update?

I'll try, thanks for the feedback.

Thanks,

=S Page WMF Tech writer

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