Please find below the notes for the internationalisation triage bug
triage held on Wednesday, September 14, 13:00UTC in #wikimedia-dev on Freenode IRC.
9 people participated in the triage. Two of the participants were new to MediaWiki. I'm very happy that the triage attracted new potential MediaWiki developers!
The triage was to have have two sections, each taking about 30 minutes. We ended up with a "first half" of about 55 minutes and a second half Of about 20 minutes.
Next week's triage is on WikiBooks http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage
== Message documentation and message related coding ==
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16026 -- MediaWiki:Revision-info should accept wikimarkup
* Volunteered by Amir.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16111 -- MediaWiki:Cascadeprotected and MediaWiki:Cascadedprotectedwarning should take the same parameters
* Volunteered by Amir.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16175 -- Clean up the rendering of messages displayed at the top of the edit window
* Volunteered by Amir. May be a difficult one, as these messages are used a lot in Wikimedia projects.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17148 -- The warning about editing a semi-protected page can display an irrelevant edit summary
* Volunteered by Brian Wolff
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17865 -- Mismatched input syntax for Cite error messages
* Some discussion. Cite is seen as scary! No one to take this yet. Please give this some TLC.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28557 -- Message documentation for Extension:AddMediaWizard needed
* Volunteered by Blucal.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25608 -- MediaWiki:Fundraiserstats-tab-ytd should not contain (USD)
* Goes to fundraising triage. A concern was voiced that i18n does not appear to get the attention it needs. The Localisation team will get in contact with the fundraising developers when they are in San Francisco in two weeks to discuss..
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29357 -- CategoryTree should have built-in localizable support for pretty Categorytree-member-num
* Amir volunteered for this. Brian is prepared to help him out where
needed.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29927 -- CentralAuth using wrong Language on Special:MergeAccount
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* Akshayagarwal volunteered for this, and has committed changes in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/97168
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30729 -- Not all numbers are localised in AbuseFilter
* srikanthlogic has volunteered for this with Brian Wolff as mentor.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29170 -- [[MediaWiki:Enotif body]] needs GENDER support
* Some discussion, but nothing final.
== Harder issues and discussion ==
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28428 -- Allow saving pages with LRM and RLM in titles, showing a warning and requiring a user right
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28411 -- titles of articles with LTR titles in RTL wikis may be displayed incorrectly in categories and special pages
* It looks like a schema change is not needed, and that the page_props table can and should be used. Use batches where needed; integrate that in Linker, LinkBatch and probably Title as well. Ambitious according to Roan. Roan agrees that having displaytitle as a page_ field makes more sense *conceptually*. In practice, he prefers page_props because that avoids a schema change and is still cheap. Niklas indicated the discussion gave him ideas on how to work towards resolving these issues.
The other announced issues were not discussed.
Thanks to everyone participating. Looking forward to the results!
Siebrand Mazeland wrote:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17865 -- Mismatched input syntax for Cite error messages
- Some discussion. Cite is seen as scary! No one to take this yet. Please give this some TLC.
Cite is not /that/ scary. What's TLC? I don't see the problem with those messages, though. They look like the rest of Cite errors. Just through the parser instead of the wfMsg() calls (which would have its own problems). Seems that ParserBeforeTidy is too late for doing a recursiveTagParse(). Just replacing the call to Cite::parse() of Cite::error with a call to MessageCache::singleton()->parse() looks like the best solution. We don't need to keep the parser context for errors. And now MessageCache::parse() doesn't pollute the $wgParser state.
== Harder issues and discussion ==
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28428 -- Allow saving pages with LRM and RLM in titles, showing a warning and requiring a user right
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28411 -- titles of articles with LTR titles in RTL wikis may be displayed incorrectly in categories and special pages
- It looks like a schema change is not needed, and that the page_props table can and should be used. Use batches where needed; integrate that in Linker, LinkBatch and probably Title as well. Ambitious according to Roan. Roan agrees that having displaytitle as a page_ field makes more sense *conceptually*. In practice, he prefers page_props because that avoids a schema change and is still cheap. Niklas indicated the discussion gave him ideas on how to work towards resolving these issues.
I agree with the idea of storing the displaytitle in page_props.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Siebrand Mazeland wrote:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17865 -- Mismatched input syntax for Cite error messages
- Some discussion. Cite is seen as scary! No one to take this yet.
Please give this some TLC.
Cite is not /that/ scary. What's TLC?
"TLC" is Tender Loving Care.
Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation
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