Mediawiki-i18n May 2006

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Finding untranslated strings in MediaWiki: namespace
by Minh Nguyen 09 May '06

09 May '06

A small tip: to find most MediaWiki: messages that haven't yet been translated, view the HTML source of [[Special:Allmessages]] and search the source code for the following string: " class="new" title="MediaWiki: This will lead you to any redlinked pages in the MediaWiki namespace, and the trailing colon ensures that you skip over any talk pages. I found Niklas' "Internationalisation news" a lot more useful for finding out about recent interface changes, but if you find that your wiki has some catching-up to do, this is the way to go. -- Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn(a)myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/

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Gmane
by Minh Nguyen 09 May '06

09 May '06

Does anyone know how long it'll take for this list to appear at Gmane? I prefer to subscribe to this list as a newsgroup, since my e-mail inbox gets full enough as it does. -- Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn(a)myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/

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Scripts, font-family, font-size, directionality etc.
by Reinhardt WIEWE ＠ torg.is 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hallo! Please take a look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix#ps and compare how the translation of "Pashto" is rendered there compared with http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/project:LanguagePs.php_and_MessagesPs.p… where <span style="font-size: 16px;" > is used. Some time ago I made some tests trying to find suitable font-family, font-size for the different languages. I used conditional templates to write these texts and longer texts in differnt variants. As far as I know this work is lost. Before posting a feature request at MediaZIlla to include such informations either in Names.php (eventualy inLanguageXx.php or MessagesXx.php) I would like to know your opinion and what additional information is rerquired. I am not familiar with HTML, X..., CSS . What information would be required in such tags? best regards [[user:gangleri]]

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Choosing Translated Term of Redirect During Move
by Eugene Zelenko 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hi! I'm sorry if this question was already discussed here before. When I move page in Belarusian WIkipedia MediaWiki software use #redirect keyword. However LanguageBe.php contains translation and it's more logically to use localized term instead of English one. I think situation is same on other projects. Should I file bug report? With best regards, Eugene.

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Internationalisation news
by Niklas Laxström 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hello, There has been lots of activity recently: many updates to translations, changes to the code which handles translations, and even new language, Tyvan, got added with few translated messages. Latest changes to code makes possible to use {{plural:}} and {{grammar:}}, so that they work also when user language is different from content language. They also work with params like $1 now. Previously only {{GRAMMAR:{{SITENAME}} would have worked correctly. However, this does not apply all messages, but only those converted to use this new function. It is work in progress. First ones to be converted are probably those mentioned in bugs http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5805 and http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5806. Other things that I intend to do are: * Some maintenance scripts to help translation: for example script that checks translations but ignores messages that should not be translated * Fixes to special pages: missing formatNum, BIDI-fixes * and other things to keep Mediawiki fully internationalised :) Comments and suggestions are welcome. Latest statistics can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Localization_statistics And finally, most of you probably already know these, here is the list of changes to messages in period of 2005-05-01 to 2005-05-07. Removed: -'groups-lookup-group' -'groups-group-edit' -'editgroup' -'addgroup' -'groups-editgroup' -'groups-addgroup' -'groups-editgroup-preamble' -remainder will be treated as a message name, and hence the text will be localised -using the MediaWiki namespace', -'groups-editgroup-name' -'groups-editgroup-description' -'savegroup' -'groups-tableheader' -'groups-existing' -'groups-noname' -'groups-already-exists' -'addgrouplogentry' -'changegrouplogentry' -'renamegrouplogentry' -'usenewcategorypage' ===== Changed: 'rcnote' 'imagelisttext' 'revertpage' 'undeletebtn' 'nbytes' supports {{plural:}} now ===== Added: +'members' +'undeleteextrahelp' +'undeletereset' +'undeletecomment' +'rightsnone' +'confirmemail_needlogin' ===== Renamed and changed: -'bureaucratlog' to 'rightslog' -'bureaucratlogentry' to 'rightslogentry' ===== Groups thing was split to 'group name' and 'name of group member' and you can even define the link to every group page: -'group-anon-name' -'group-anon-desc' -'group-loggedin-name' -'group-loggedin-desc' -'group-admin-name' -'group-admin-desc' -'group-bureaucrat-name' -'group-bureaucrat-desc' -'group-steward-name' -'group-steward-desc' +'group' +'group-bot' +'group-sysop' +'group-bureaucrat' +'group-steward' +'group-all' +'group-bot-member' +'group-sysop-member' +'group-bureaucrat-member' +'group-steward-member' +'grouppage-bot' +'grouppage-sysop' +'grouppage-bureaucrat' -- Niklas Laxström

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Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] unused msg between rev. 13859 and 14113
by Petr Kadlec 07 May '06

07 May '06

Hi! > I just thought that this may be useful. When I check latest > Messages.php file (r. 14113, 1.7-svn), here's the 42 variables that > were deleted: In case you didn't know that: note that there are useful tools to aid with such tasks in the maintenance folder: * checktrans.php lists all untranslated messages (i.e. they exist in Messages.php, but not in the selected language), * redundanttrans.php lists all redundant messages (i.e. they exist in the selected language, but not in Messages.php, probably removed legacy messages), * duplicatetrans.php lists all duplicate messages (i.e. translated into an identical string). -- [[cs:User:Mormegil | Petr Kadlec]]

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Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] unused msg between rev. 13859 and 14113
by Jimmy Collins 07 May '06

07 May '06

Hi, the German translation (de) is already cleaned up. Regards, Jimmy > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: MediaWiki internationalisation <mediawiki-i18n(a)mail.wikimedia.org> > Gesendet: 07.05.06 12:22:42 > An: mediawiki-i18n(a)mail.wikimedia.org > Betreff: [Mediawiki-i18n] unused msg between rev. 13859 and 14113 > Hello, > > I just thought that this may be useful. When I check latest > Messages.php file (r. 14113, 1.7-svn), here's the 42 variables that > were deleted: > > poweredby > printsubtitle > newusersonly > groups-lookup-group > groups-group-edit > editgroup > addgroup > groups-editgroup > groups-addgroup > groups-editgroup-preamble > groups-editgroup-name > groups-editgroup-description > savegroup > groups-tableheader > groups-existing > groups-noname > groups-already-exists > addgrouplogentry > changegrouplogentry > renamegrouplogentry > group-anon-name > group-anon-desc > group-loggedin-name > group-loggedin-desc > group-admin-name > group-admin-desc > group-bureaucrat-name > group-bureaucrat-desc > group-steward-name > group-steward-desc > rcloaderr > rchide > rcliu > tableform > listform > nchanges > uploadlink > orphans > protectpage > debug > bureaucratlog > bureaucratlogentry > > Regards, IRL. > _______________________________________________ > Mediawiki-i18n mailing list > Mediawiki-i18n(a)mail.wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n

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unused msg between rev. 13859 and 14113
by Ivan R. Lanin 07 May '06

07 May '06

Hello, I just thought that this may be useful. When I check latest Messages.php file (r. 14113, 1.7-svn), here's the 42 variables that were deleted: poweredby printsubtitle newusersonly groups-lookup-group groups-group-edit editgroup addgroup groups-editgroup groups-addgroup groups-editgroup-preamble groups-editgroup-name groups-editgroup-description savegroup groups-tableheader groups-existing groups-noname groups-already-exists addgrouplogentry changegrouplogentry renamegrouplogentry group-anon-name group-anon-desc group-loggedin-name group-loggedin-desc group-admin-name group-admin-desc group-bureaucrat-name group-bureaucrat-desc group-steward-name group-steward-desc rcloaderr rchide rcliu tableform listform nchanges uploadlink orphans protectpage debug bureaucratlog bureaucratlogentry Regards, IRL.

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