Gerard, your opinion puts me into a difficult situation. The formal "Requests for new
languages" page does not specifically request a Latin-alphabet project. It simply
requests a project. The language has enough speakers to be eligible by policy. Unless
somebody checks out the project and tells me that what is written is not Khorasani Turkic
at all, the project has enough activity to be eligible by policy. And under normal
circumstances it is not our role to tell a community in Incubator how to run its project.
For these reasons, I don't really see a policy-based justification for not marking
this request "eligible". The test is not so active that it will get anywhere
near approvability any time soon. So I think for now, we have to mark it eligible. And if
and when it comes up for approval, we can decide what to do at that point.
Steven
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I think the difference between this case and the "Romanized Persian" situation
is that in the "Romanized Persian" case, there is already an active, solid
project in Persian. Thus, anyone wanting to create this project has to work through the
Persian Wikipedia community to make this happen. In the case of Khorasani Turkic, there is
nothing else created in this language. And the language is inherently eligible. So I think
by policy I need to mark it eligible. By the time it comes to approve the project, if
ever, one of the following will have happened:
* Because the general script of the language is Perso-Arabic, people will have come
along and changed the content to that script.
* That doesn't happen, but there is evidence of a community that will make use of
the project in Latin script.
* Some combination of the above, where they will have worked out a modus vivendi
between the two while the test is still in Incubator.
For that reason, I'm not too worried about marking it "eligible".
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Hoi,
It only makes sense to do so when there is a public. It is not a hobby.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 6 June 2018 at 19:37, Michael Everson <siorrai(a)evertype.com> wrote:
I have no objection to a Roman alphabet version of
editors wish to create
one.
On 6 Jun 2018, at 16:17, Steven White
<Koala19890(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Khorasani Turkic (kmz): In theory, the language ought to be eligible.
But the test
is written in a Romanized form, which neither Ethnologue nor
the enwiki article shows as an ordinary variant. Thoughts?