Activity is fine. I won't hold the localization level against them, so I think it should be approved. -K ------------------------------ *From:* Langcom &lt;langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf of Jon Harald Søby &lt;jhsoby(a)gmail.com&gt; *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 2:29 PM *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee < langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Request Approval of Shan Wiktionary (wt/shn) I am satisfied with the activity here, so I would be happy to approve. The only thing which could need some improvement is the localization on Translatewiki, Shan is currently at 57 % translated <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:MessageGroupStats?group=core&suppressempty=1&x=D> for MediaWiki core. But I don't want to hold that against them, but just encourage a bit more translation there. fre. 20. mar. 2020 kl. 20:13 skrev Kyi Phyo Htet < leonhart.njs(a)googlemail.com&gt;gt;: Dear respectful LangCom Members, The Shan Wiktionary project is active enough[1] and has more than 9500 entries.[2] The Shan community's first Wikipedia Project (Shan Wikipedia) was approved and created on 2018.[3] Please review their second project[4] for the final approval. Thanks. [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wt/shn… [2] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/shn/%E1%81%BC%E1%82%83%E1%82%88%E1%… [3] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:News#2018 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Shan On behalf of Shan Wiki Community, Kyi Phyo Htet / User:Ninjastrikers <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ninjastrikers> Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom -- mvh Jon Harald Søby _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Both parts of your objection go against current written policy, Gerard. If you want to start rejecting all Wiktionary projects because you don't like it and because Wikidata is better (at least according to you), this must be discussed separately. And the policy about localization is: "If a Wikimedia project in your language already exists and these messages have already been translated, we ask that you show evidence that localisation is continuing to be improved and maintained at a reasonable pace." There is activity in Shan in translatewiki, so this is not a problem. As for myself, I checked the activity and the quality of the pages and both look fine. I support the approval of this. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ‫בתאריך יום ג׳, 24 במרץ 2020 ב-12:38 מאת ‪Gerard Meijssen‬‏ <‪ gerard.meijssen@gmail.com‬‏>:‬ > Hoi, > You may know that I have a history with Wiktionary .. Given that > Wikidata is superior in supporting lexical content, I am wary to approve. > That and I do care about localisation. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 07:27, Kimberli Mäkäräinen < > kimberli.makarainen(a)tuni.fi&gt; wrote: > >> Activity is fine. I won't hold the localization level against them, >> so I think it should be approved. >> >> -K >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Langcom &lt;langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf of >> Jon Harald Søby &lt;jhsoby(a)gmail.com&gt; >> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 2:29 PM >> *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee < >> langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; >> *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Request Approval of Shan Wiktionary (wt/shn) >> >> I am satisfied with the activity here, so I would be happy to >> approve. The only thing which could need some improvement is the >> localization on Translatewiki, Shan is currently at 57 % translated >> <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:MessageGroupStats?group=core&suppressempty=1&x=D> >> for MediaWiki core. But I don't want to hold that against them, but just >> encourage a bit more translation there. >> >> fre. 20. mar. 2020 kl. 20:13 skrev Kyi Phyo Htet < >> leonhart.njs(a)googlemail.com&gt;gt;: >> >> Dear respectful LangCom Members, >> >> The Shan Wiktionary project is active enough[1] and has more than >> 9500 entries.[2] The Shan community's first Wikipedia Project (Shan >> Wikipedia) was approved and created on 2018.[3] Please review their second >> project[4] for the final approval. Thanks. >> >> >> [1] >> https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wt/shn… >> [2] >> https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/shn/%E1%81%BC%E1%82%83%E1%82%88%E1%… >> >> [3] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:News#2018 >> >> [4] >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Shan >> >> On behalf of Shan Wiki Community, >> >> Kyi Phyo Htet / User:Ninjastrikers >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ninjastrikers> >> >> Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group> >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows 10 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> >> >> -- >> mvh >> Jon Harald Søby >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Hoi, Three days is not a reasonable time showing continued attention for localisation. The quality of the arguments is exactly what we lost .. clear objective criteria. Thanks, GerardM On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 20:42, MF-Warburg &lt;mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com&gt; wrote: > I agree with approval as well. > While activity on TWN only seems to have restarted 3 days ago, I'm > fine with it as the most-used messages are already translated and it seems > like the contributions to shn.wp and wt/shn are at least not heavily > impeded by missing interface translations. > > Am Di., 24. März 2020 um 13:35 Uhr schrieb Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt;gt;: > >> Both parts of your objection go against current written policy, >> Gerard. >> >> If you want to start rejecting all Wiktionary projects because you >> don't like it and because Wikidata is better (at least according to you), >> this must be discussed separately. >> >> And the policy about localization is: "If a Wikimedia project in your >> language already exists and these messages have already been translated, we >> ask that you show evidence that localisation is continuing to be improved >> and maintained at a reasonable pace." There is activity in Shan in >> translatewiki, so this is not a problem. >> >> As for myself, I checked the activity and the quality of the pages >> and both look fine. I support the approval of this. >> >> -- >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >> ‪“We're living in pieces, >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ >> >> >> ‫בתאריך יום ג׳, 24 במרץ 2020 ב-12:38 מאת ‪Gerard Meijssen‬‏ <‪ >> gerard.meijssen@gmail.com‬‏>:‬ >> >>> Hoi, >>> You may know that I have a history with Wiktionary .. Given that >>> Wikidata is superior in supporting lexical content, I am wary to approve. >>> That and I do care about localisation. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 07:27, Kimberli Mäkäräinen < >>> kimberli.makarainen(a)tuni.fi&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Activity is fine. I won't hold the localization level against them, >>>> so I think it should be approved. >>>> >>>> -K >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Langcom &lt;langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf of >>>> Jon Harald Søby &lt;jhsoby(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 2:29 PM >>>> *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee < >>>> langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Request Approval of Shan Wiktionary >>>> (wt/shn) >>>> >>>> I am satisfied with the activity here, so I would be happy to >>>> approve. The only thing which could need some improvement is the >>>> localization on Translatewiki, Shan is currently at 57 % translated >>>> <https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:MessageGroupStats?group=core&suppressempty=1&x=D> >>>> for MediaWiki core. But I don't want to hold that against them, but just >>>> encourage a bit more translation there. >>>> >>>> fre. 20. mar. 2020 kl. 20:13 skrev Kyi Phyo Htet < >>>> leonhart.njs(a)googlemail.com&gt;gt;: >>>> >>>> Dear respectful LangCom Members, >>>> >>>> The Shan Wiktionary project is active enough[1] and has more than >>>> 9500 entries.[2] The Shan community's first Wikipedia Project (Shan >>>> Wikipedia) was approved and created on 2018.[3] Please review their second >>>> project[4] for the final approval. Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wt/shn… >>>> [2] >>>> https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/shn/%E1%81%BC%E1%82%83%E1%82%88%E1%… >>>> >>>> [3] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:News#2018 >>>> >>>> [4] >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Shan >>>> >>>> On behalf of Shan Wiki Community, >>>> >>>> Kyi Phyo Htet / User:Ninjastrikers >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ninjastrikers> >>>> >>>> Myanmar Wikimedia Community User Group >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Myanmar_Wikimedia_Community_User_Group> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> >>>> for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mvh >>>> Jon Harald Søby >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom