Greetings LangCom,
Perhaps this is something worthy of a more clear and official response. User is asking about the possibility of an Old Norse Wikipedia, GerardM responds advising that extinct languages are generally not eligible for Wikipedia language editions, but however Old English Wikipedia does exist (AngWiki at https://ang.wikipedia.org). I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation and it may be worth spelling out said explanations to explain what looks like an inconsistency in policy.
Apologies is this is already covered somewhere on a Meta policy page, if so then it would be a net benefit to provide a link to the page explaining why some extinct languages are okay and others are not.
Cheers all,
Ben Landry Salvidrimhttps://www.salvidrim.net/
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________________________________ From: Kräfta drakegemini664@gmail.com Sent: July 15, 2021 4:07 AM To: Ben Salvidrim salvidrim@salvidrim.net Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Re: Norse?
Thanks! Although, there is an Old English edition of Wikipedia
On Wed, 14 Jul 2021, 7:21 pm Ben Salvidrim, <salvidrim@salvidrim.netmailto:salvidrim@salvidrim.net> wrote: Your request was for a "Old Norse wikipedia page"; Wikipedia does in fact have an article about the Old Norse language in several editions, including English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse
If you were in fact asking about having an edition of Wikipedia written in the Old Norse language, then Gerard's response explains that we don't generally create new Wikipedia editions in extinct languages.
Ben Landry Salvidrimhttps://www.salvidrim.net/
⁂ English Wikipedia: 9+ years of editing experience · Former Administrator–SPI–UTRS–OTRS (2013 to 2018) ⁂ Work: Telecom coordinator for Luminethttps://luminet.ca/ / Dimensionhttp://www.dimension10.ca/10http://www.dimension10.ca/ · Freelance administrative assistant on my own time ⁂ Personal: ☎ 514-691-6738 ✉ salmailto:salvidrim@salvidrim.netvidrim@salvidrim.netmailto:salvidrim@salvidrim.net ⇄ https://www.linkedin.com/in/salvidrim/
________________________________ From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.commailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> Sent: July 14, 2021 10:41 AM To: Wikipedia mailing list <wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: Norse?
Hoi, The existing policy of the Language Committee does not allow for extinct languages. Sorry but no. Thanks, GerardM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 16:07, Kräfta <drakegemini664@gmail.commailto:drakegemini664@gmail.com> wrote:
I am wondering about the creation of an Old Norse wikipedia page? _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list -- wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikipedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikipedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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This is because angwiki existed prior to the establishment of Langcom or the current language proposal policy (m:LPP). IIRC the latter explicitly says that some projects were created which today would not be approved anymore.
Ben Salvidrim salvidrim@salvidrim.net schrieb am Sa., 17. Juli 2021, 15:11:
Greetings LangCom,
Perhaps this is something worthy of a more clear and official response. User is asking about the possibility of an Old Norse Wikipedia, GerardM responds advising that extinct languages are generally not eligible for Wikipedia language editions, but however Old English Wikipedia does exist (AngWiki at https://ang.wikipedia.org). I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation and it may be worth spelling out said explanations to explain what looks like an inconsistency in policy.
Apologies is this is already covered somewhere on a Meta policy page, if so then it would be a net benefit to provide a link to the page explaining why some extinct languages are okay and others are not.
Cheers all,
*Ben Landry* *Salvidrim* https://www.salvidrim.net/
*⁂ **English Wikipedia:* 9+ years of editing experience *·* Former Administrator–SPI–UTRS–OTRS (2013 to 2018) *⁂* *Work: *Telecom coordinator for *Luminet* https://luminet.ca/ */ * *Dimension* http://www.dimension10.ca/*10* http://www.dimension10.ca/ *· * Freelance administrative assistant on my own time *⁂* *Personal: * ☎ *514-691-6738* ✉ *sal* salvidrim@salvidrim.net *vidrim@salvidrim.net* salvidrim@salvidrim.net *⇄* https://www.linkedin.com/in/salvidrim/
*From:* Kräfta drakegemini664@gmail.com *Sent:* July 15, 2021 4:07 AM *To:* Ben Salvidrim salvidrim@salvidrim.net *Subject:* Re: [Wikipedia-l] Re: Norse?
Thanks! Although, there is an Old English edition of Wikipedia
On Wed, 14 Jul 2021, 7:21 pm Ben Salvidrim, salvidrim@salvidrim.net wrote:
Your request was for a "Old Norse wikipedia page"; Wikipedia does in fact have an article about the Old Norse language in several editions, including English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse
If you were in fact asking about having an edition of Wikipedia written in the Old Norse language, then Gerard's response explains that we don't generally create new Wikipedia editions in extinct languages.
*Ben Landry* *Salvidrim* https://www.salvidrim.net/
*⁂ **English Wikipedia:* 9+ years of editing experience *·* Former Administrator–SPI–UTRS–OTRS (2013 to 2018) *⁂* *Work: *Telecom coordinator for *Luminet* https://luminet.ca/ */ * *Dimension* http://www.dimension10.ca/*10* http://www.dimension10.ca/ *· * Freelance administrative assistant on my own time *⁂* *Personal: * ☎ *514-691-6738* ✉ *sal* salvidrim@salvidrim.net *vidrim@salvidrim.net* salvidrim@salvidrim.net *⇄* https://www.linkedin.com/in/salvidrim/
*From:* Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com *Sent:* July 14, 2021 10:41 AM *To:* Wikipedia mailing list wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* [Wikipedia-l] Re: Norse?
Hoi, The existing policy of the Language Committee does not allow for extinct languages. Sorry but no. Thanks, GerardM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 16:07, Kräfta drakegemini664@gmail.com wrote:
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