Tbh I am uncomfortable with this situation. I am indifferent about whether
we should have Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia or not, but dont see what is
now the reason why we find it eligible and why other languages might not be.
That said, I just send this mail to voice my concern, not to pause or stop
the process. I realize that a) the 7-day period is already over and b) a
vote would end in favour of eligibility.
Am 10.12.2017 2:06 vorm. schrieb "Steven White" <Koala19890(a)hotmail.com>om>:
Based on Milos's message of 22:51 UTC Friday,
along with a comment from
Prof. Boeree at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#
Lingua_Franca_Nova_(lfn), I am marking this project as approved, and will
open a phabricator task to do same.
Steven
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1. Re: Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia (Michael Everson)
2. Re: Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia (Milos Rancic)
3. Re: Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia (Gerard Meijssen)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 22:47:10 +0000
From: Michael Everson <everson(a)evertype.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
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I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary of
LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012.
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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mervelias%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc
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I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these
pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
On 8 Dec 2017, at 18:34, Steven White
<Koala19890(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
This has been out a week with no objections, so I am marking this as
"approving" (pending language check).
I guess the logical person to contact on this is the creator of the
language, C.
George Boeree, Professor Emeritus at Shippensburg University
of Pennsylvania. (I am told he contributed a small amount to the project,
but was not a major contributor.) He has a web page at
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Please let me know who is going to handle this.
Steven
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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:51:40 +0100
From: Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
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On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Michael Everson <everson(a)evertype.com>
wrote:
I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon
Davies on a new dictionary
of LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in
2012.
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa-aventuras-Alisia-pais-
mervelias%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc
776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%
7C636484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjLmSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q
1hhePtdTg92do%3D&reserved=0
I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these
pages is
genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
Yes, I think this should be enough as the expert verification.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 06:54:38 +0100
From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
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Hoi,
We had Klingon at one time.. Do you really consider revisiting that ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 8 December 2017 at 23:22, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:58 PM, MF-Warburg
<mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
Can we, by the way, define more detailed criteria
for which artificial
languages should be eligible?
Agreed. If we count native speakers, Klingon is, AFAIK, immediately
after Esperanto.
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