Tbh I am uncomfortable with this situation. I am indifferent about whether we should have Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia or not, but dont see what is now the reason why we find it eligible and why other languages might not be.That said, I just send this mail to voice my concern, not to pause or stop the process. I realize that a) the 7-day period is already over and b) a vote would end in favour of eligibility.Am 10.12.2017 2:06 vorm. schrieb "Steven White" <Koala19890@hotmail.com>:https://lists.wikimedia.org/maBased on Milos's message of 22:51 UTC Friday, along with a comment from Prof. Boeree at https://meta.wikimedia.org/
wiki/Talk:Language_committee#L , I am marking this project as approved, and will open a phabricator task to do same.ingua_Franca_Nova_(lfn) Steven
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I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary of LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012. https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https% 3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa- aventuras-Alisia-pais-mervelia s%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02% 7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a647 08d53efc776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640a fb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63 6484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjL mSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q1hhePtd Tg92do%3D&reserved=0
I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
> On 8 Dec 2017, at 18:34, Steven White <Koala19890@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> This has been out a week with no objections, so I am marking this as "approving" (pending language check).
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> I guess the logical person to contact on this is the creator of the language, C. George Boeree, Professor Emeritus at Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania. (I am told he contributed a small amount to the project, but was not a major contributor.) He has a web page at https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A% , and his email address is cgboer@ship.edu. Please let me know who is going to handle this.2F%2Fwebspace.ship.edu% 2Fcgboer%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C e52d02978a6d4818a64708d53efc77 6d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaa aaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636484176421 162611&sdata=9MRPywi52Ado4Eddr 062X4ZPhVyPEqF%2Bltw5% 2BfVJOCk%3D&reserved=0
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On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com> wrote:
> I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary of LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012. https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https% 3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa- aventuras-Alisia-pais-mervelia s%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02% 7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a647 08d53efc776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640a fb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63 6484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjL mSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q1hhePtd Tg92do%3D&reserved=0
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> I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
Yes, I think this should be enough as the expert verification.
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Hoi,
We had Klingon at one time.. Do you really consider revisiting that ?
Thanks,
GerardM
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> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:58 PM, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com>
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> > Can we, by the way, define more detailed criteria for which artificial
> > languages should be eligible?
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> Agreed. If we count native speakers, Klingon is, AFAIK, immediately
> after Esperanto.
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