Hoi,
Given the current situation, it makes sense to reflect. It is also what you
ask. If it helps the process I am in favour to stop the clock and come up
with reasonable arguments. I am no longer in favour if that helps to make
us reflect on business. Business as usual is not an option.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 10 December 2017 at 09:45, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Tbh I am uncomfortable with this situation. I am
indifferent about whether
we should have Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia or not, but dont see what is
now the reason why we find it eligible and why other languages might not be.
That said, I just send this mail to voice my concern, not to pause or stop
the process. I realize that a) the 7-day period is already over and b) a
vote would end in favour of eligibility.
Am 10.12.2017 2:06 vorm. schrieb "Steven White"
<Koala19890(a)hotmail.com>om>:
> Based on Milos's message of 22:51 UTC Friday, along with a comment from
> Prof. Boeree at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#L
> ingua_Franca_Nova_(lfn), I am marking this project as approved, and will
> open a phabricator task to do same.
>
> Steven
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 22:47:10 +0000
> From: Michael Everson <everson(a)evertype.com>
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
> Message-ID: <A1C11C08-0F5E-41B1-9306-FF6D4171080F(a)evertype.com>
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> I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary of
> LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012.
>
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%
> 3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa-aventuras-Alisia-pais-mervelia
> s%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a647
> 08d53efc776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63
> 6484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjLmSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q1hhePtd
> Tg92do%3D&reserved=0
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> I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these
> pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
>
> > On 8 Dec 2017, at 18:34, Steven White <Koala19890(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This has been out a week with no objections, so I am marking this as
> "approving" (pending language check).
> >
> > I guess the logical person to contact on this is the creator of the
> language, C. George Boeree, Professor Emeritus at Shippensburg University
> of Pennsylvania. (I am told he contributed a small amount to the project,
> but was not a major contributor.) He has a web page at
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> cgboer(a)ship.edu. Please let me know who is going to handle this.
> >
> > Steven
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:51:40 +0100
> From: Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
> <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
> Message-ID:
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> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Michael Everson <everson(a)evertype.com>
> wrote:
> > I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary
> of LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012.
>
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%
> 3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLa-aventuras-Alisia-pais-mervelia
> s%2Fdp%2F1904808883&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce52d02978a6d4818a647
> 08d53efc776d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63
> 6484176421162611&sdata=60D4DjLmSTBXmRUj2nku7zCqrlEx2Q1hhePtd
> Tg92do%3D&reserved=0
> >
> > I’m not a fluent speaker, but I can tell you that the language on these
> pages is genuinely LFN. Do you need more?
>
> Yes, I think this should be enough as the expert verification.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 06:54:38 +0100
> From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia
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>
> Hoi,
> We had Klingon at one time.. Do you really consider revisiting that ?
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 8 December 2017 at 23:22, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:58 PM, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Can we, by the way, define more detailed criteria for which artificial
> > > languages should be eligible?
> >
> > Agreed. If we count native speakers, Klingon is, AFAIK, immediately
> > after Esperanto.
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