Please see the discussion at < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Language_proposal_po....
Hoi, The language committee has always had the ability to do as it sees fit. All it takes is consent from all members. There is not much need to change the rules because there is an inherent ability to bend the rules. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 January 2016 at 00:06, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Please see the discussion at < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Language_proposal_po....
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The thing is that if someone want to initiate a new project but believed they does not met the written criteria, then they might simply opt to not proceed with their application at all. If there are no application then there are no round corner for langcom to blend.
2016-01-27 16:12 GMT+08:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, The language committee has always had the ability to do as it sees fit. All it takes is consent from all members. There is not much need to change the rules because there is an inherent ability to bend the rules. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 January 2016 at 00:06, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Please see the discussion at < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Language_proposal_po....
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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I replied there.
I don't think that there should be a hard blocker for this. A language that is reasonably used outside of Wikimedia for publishing or education world is definitely eligible in my book.
Projects like the Tunisian Latin alphabet, which we discussed here a few months ago, is borderline, because it looks like a hobbyist project with little actual use, and I'd need something more substantial. But if, for example, a real school is involved, then I wouldn't block such things.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2016-01-27 13:08 GMT+02:00 gfb hjjhjh c933103@gmail.com:
The thing is that if someone want to initiate a new project but believed they does not met the written criteria, then they might simply opt to not proceed with their application at all. If there are no application then there are no round corner for langcom to blend.
2016-01-27 16:12 GMT+08:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, The language committee has always had the ability to do as it sees fit. All it takes is consent from all members. There is not much need to change the rules because there is an inherent ability to bend the rules. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 January 2016 at 00:06, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Please see the discussion at < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Language_proposal_po....
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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I thought the issue was a community which would take care of a project.
So, even if a revitalized language has a community *outside* of Wikimedia, that doesn't automatically mean that an application for a wiki project would be granted. So, fair enough, we can accept the application for such a language as eligible, but the promoter of the *wiki* project still has to give evidence of the wiki project being sustainable. Otherwise, we'll be swamped with orphaned projects.
Fwiw, Oliver
On 27-Jan-16 3:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
I replied there.
I don't think that there should be a hard blocker for this. A language that is reasonably used outside of Wikimedia for publishing or education world is definitely eligible in my book.
Projects like the Tunisian Latin alphabet, which we discussed here a few months ago, is borderline, because it looks like a hobbyist project with little actual use, and I'd need something more substantial. But if, for example, a real school is involved, then I wouldn't block such things.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2016-01-27 13:08 GMT+02:00 gfb hjjhjh <c933103@gmail.com mailto:c933103@gmail.com>:
The thing is that if someone want to initiate a new project but believed they does not met the written criteria, then they might simply opt to not proceed with their application at all. If there are no application then there are no round corner for langcom to blend. 2016-01-27 16:12 GMT+08:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>>: Hoi, The language committee has always had the ability to do as it sees fit. All it takes is consent from all members. There is not much need to change the rules because there is an inherent ability to bend the rules. Thanks, GerardM On 27 January 2016 at 00:06, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com <mailto:mfwarburg@googlemail.com>> wrote: Please see the discussion at <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Language_proposal_policy.27s_Requisites_for_eligibility>. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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Yes, this is certain. בתאריך 27 בינו׳ 2016 20:44, "Oliver Stegen" oliver_stegen@sil.org כתב:
I thought the issue was a community which would take care of a project.
So, even if a revitalized language has a community *outside* of Wikimedia, that doesn't automatically mean that an application for a wiki project would be granted. So, fair enough, we can accept the application for such a language as eligible, but the promoter of the *wiki* project still has to give evidence of the wiki project being sustainable. Otherwise, we'll be swamped with orphaned projects.
Fwiw, Oliver
On 27-Jan-16 3:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
I replied there.
I don't think that there should be a hard blocker for this. A language that is reasonably used outside of Wikimedia for publishing or education world is definitely eligible in my book.
Projects like the Tunisian Latin alphabet, which we discussed here a few months ago, is borderline, because it looks like a hobbyist project with little actual use, and I'd need something more substantial. But if, for example, a real school is involved, then I wouldn't block such things.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2016-01-27 13:08 GMT+02:00 gfb hjjhjh c933103@gmail.com:
The thing is that if someone want to initiate a new project but believed they does not met the written criteria, then they might simply opt to not proceed with their application at all. If there are no application then there are no round corner for langcom to blend.
2016-01-27 16:12 GMT+08:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, The language committee has always had the ability to do as it sees fit. All it takes is consent from all members. There is not much need to change the rules because there is an inherent ability to bend the rules. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 January 2016 at 00:06, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Please see the discussion at < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Language_proposal_po....
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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