Hallo!
I am going through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages , project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter C.
Meta-update: I changed the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:New_wiki_request template to sort the requests in the categories by the language name rather than putting them all under the letter R :)
== Caló == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Cal%C3%... Code: rmq My take: *Delete the request page.* That's right. The language is most likely eligible, but the request, as it is now, is pointless. The request was made by a person who probably doesn't know the language. No substantial information was added to the request, other than the template, despite the questions. The content of the Incubator is written by the same user or by another user who makes edits in many languages and most likely doesn't know this language.
So even though the language is probably eligible, it's better to start it from a blank slate when someone who actually knows it comes in.
== Carpathian Romani == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Carpath... Code: rmc My take: Eligible.
== Central Kanuri == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: knc My take: Eligible, and should probably be even marked as "approved".
== Siberian Yupik == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Siberia... Code: ess My take: Eligible. I don't have a problem with the fact that it's spoken by fewer than 1000 people. The request was made by someone who made meaningful contributions to Russian Wikipedia articles about languages of that group. Unfortunately, the request is quite old, but go figure, it can come alive.
== Central Tagbanwa == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: tgt My take: Eligible, but it is one of several requests made by the same user, who didn't do much else. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Boineun .
== Chitonga == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chitong... Code: toi My take: Eligible.
== Chuj == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuj Code: cac My take: Probably eligible. Almost all the contribution to the request and to the Incubator is by a Ukrainian user, but there's also a bit of contribution by someone who may be an actual speaker, albeit six years ago :(
== Chuuk == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuukes... Code: chk My take: The language looks eligible, but I pinged the user who created the request recently to check that they actually plan to work on it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gusss35
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For the Central Siberian Yupik, I recommend we find an expert to verify the accuracy of what already exists before declaring it eligible. The same native Turkish speaker has also contributed to the mess that is the Central Yupik incubator project.
Please read Trond Trosterud's paper from 2021 for details about the circumpolar editions and who has been creating them and what the effects have been:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/ArcticWikipedias_Troster...
d. K
________________________________ From: Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 5:59 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Langcom] eligible / ineligible Wikipedia requests: C + meta-update
Hallo!
I am going through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages , project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter C.
Meta-update: I changed the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:New_wiki_request template to sort the requests in the categories by the language name rather than putting them all under the letter R :)
== Caló == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Cal%C3%... Code: rmq My take: *Delete the request page.* That's right. The language is most likely eligible, but the request, as it is now, is pointless. The request was made by a person who probably doesn't know the language. No substantial information was added to the request, other than the template, despite the questions. The content of the Incubator is written by the same user or by another user who makes edits in many languages and most likely doesn't know this language.
So even though the language is probably eligible, it's better to start it from a blank slate when someone who actually knows it comes in.
== Carpathian Romani == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Carpath... Code: rmc My take: Eligible.
== Central Kanuri == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: knc My take: Eligible, and should probably be even marked as "approved".
== Siberian Yupik == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Siberia... Code: ess My take: Eligible. I don't have a problem with the fact that it's spoken by fewer than 1000 people. The request was made by someone who made meaningful contributions to Russian Wikipedia articles about languages of that group. Unfortunately, the request is quite old, but go figure, it can come alive.
== Central Tagbanwa == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: tgt My take: Eligible, but it is one of several requests made by the same user, who didn't do much else. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Boineun .
== Chitonga == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chitong... Code: toi My take: Eligible.
== Chuj == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuj Code: cac My take: Probably eligible. Almost all the contribution to the request and to the Incubator is by a Ukrainian user, but there's also a bit of contribution by someone who may be an actual speaker, albeit six years ago :(
== Chuuk == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuukes... Code: chk My take: The language looks eligible, but I pinged the user who created the request recently to check that they actually plan to work on it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gusss35
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.comhttp://aharoni.wordpress.com/ “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
I'm not sure: which Turkish speaker? The Siberian Yupik one was created by a user with the Cyrillic name Ӄавалӷи Сыфлъюгаӄ. But maybe I'm missing something.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ב׳, 7 באוק׳ 2024 ב-18:21 מאת Kimberli Mäkäräinen < kimberli.makarainen@tuni.fi>:
For the Central Siberian Yupik, I recommend we find an expert to verify the accuracy of what already exists before declaring it eligible. The same native Turkish speaker has also contributed to the mess that is the Central Yupik incubator project.
Please read Trond Trosterud's paper from 2021 for details about the circumpolar editions and who has been creating them and what the effects have been:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/ArcticWikipedias_Troster...
d. K
*From:* Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il *Sent:* Monday, October 7, 2024 5:59 PM *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom@lists.wikimedia.org
*Subject:* [Langcom] eligible / ineligible Wikipedia requests: C + meta-update
Hallo!
I am going through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages , project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter C.
Meta-update: I changed the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:New_wiki_request template to sort the requests in the categories by the language name rather than putting them all under the letter R :)
== Caló == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Cal%C3%... Code: rmq My take: *Delete the request page.* That's right. The language is most likely eligible, but the request, as it is now, is pointless. The request was made by a person who probably doesn't know the language. No substantial information was added to the request, other than the template, despite the questions. The content of the Incubator is written by the same user or by another user who makes edits in many languages and most likely doesn't know this language.
So even though the language is probably eligible, it's better to start it from a blank slate when someone who actually knows it comes in.
== Carpathian Romani == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Carpath... Code: rmc My take: Eligible.
== Central Kanuri == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: knc My take: Eligible, and should probably be even marked as "approved".
== Siberian Yupik == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Siberia... Code: ess My take: Eligible. I don't have a problem with the fact that it's spoken by fewer than 1000 people. The request was made by someone who made meaningful contributions to Russian Wikipedia articles about languages of that group. Unfortunately, the request is quite old, but go figure, it can come alive.
== Central Tagbanwa == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: tgt My take: Eligible, but it is one of several requests made by the same user, who didn't do much else. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Boineun .
== Chitonga == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chitong... Code: toi My take: Eligible.
== Chuj == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuj Code: cac My take: Probably eligible. Almost all the contribution to the request and to the Incubator is by a Ukrainian user, but there's also a bit of contribution by someone who may be an actual speaker, albeit six years ago :(
== Chuuk == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuukes... Code: chk My take: The language looks eligible, but I pinged the user who created the request recently to check that they actually plan to work on it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gusss35
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Deleted Calo.
The requests by Gusss35 and Boineun maybe also are better to be deleted, if they don't respond.
No concerns about the rest.
Am Mo., 7. Okt. 2024 um 17:00 Uhr schrieb Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>:
Hallo!
I am going through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages , project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter C.
Meta-update: I changed the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:New_wiki_request template to sort the requests in the categories by the language name rather than putting them all under the letter R :)
== Caló == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Cal%C3%... Code: rmq My take: *Delete the request page.* That's right. The language is most likely eligible, but the request, as it is now, is pointless. The request was made by a person who probably doesn't know the language. No substantial information was added to the request, other than the template, despite the questions. The content of the Incubator is written by the same user or by another user who makes edits in many languages and most likely doesn't know this language.
So even though the language is probably eligible, it's better to start it from a blank slate when someone who actually knows it comes in.
== Carpathian Romani == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Carpath... Code: rmc My take: Eligible.
== Central Kanuri == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: knc My take: Eligible, and should probably be even marked as "approved".
== Siberian Yupik == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Siberia... Code: ess My take: Eligible. I don't have a problem with the fact that it's spoken by fewer than 1000 people. The request was made by someone who made meaningful contributions to Russian Wikipedia articles about languages of that group. Unfortunately, the request is quite old, but go figure, it can come alive.
== Central Tagbanwa == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: tgt My take: Eligible, but it is one of several requests made by the same user, who didn't do much else. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Boineun .
== Chitonga == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chitong... Code: toi My take: Eligible.
== Chuj == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuj Code: cac My take: Probably eligible. Almost all the contribution to the request and to the Incubator is by a Ukrainian user, but there's also a bit of contribution by someone who may be an actual speaker, albeit six years ago :(
== Chuuk == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuukes... Code: chk My take: The language looks eligible, but I pinged the user who created the request recently to check that they actually plan to work on it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gusss35
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Seeing the requester for Chuj and the grand total of 3 edits on Incubator by the possible native speaker, maybe a deletion is also better.
Am Di., 8. Okt. 2024 um 10:13 Uhr schrieb MF-Warburg < mfwarburg@googlemail.com>:
Deleted Calo.
The requests by Gusss35 and Boineun maybe also are better to be deleted, if they don't respond.
No concerns about the rest.
Am Mo., 7. Okt. 2024 um 17:00 Uhr schrieb Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>:
Hallo!
I am going through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages , project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter C.
Meta-update: I changed the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:New_wiki_request template to sort the requests in the categories by the language name rather than putting them all under the letter R :)
== Caló == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Cal%C3%... Code: rmq My take: *Delete the request page.* That's right. The language is most likely eligible, but the request, as it is now, is pointless. The request was made by a person who probably doesn't know the language. No substantial information was added to the request, other than the template, despite the questions. The content of the Incubator is written by the same user or by another user who makes edits in many languages and most likely doesn't know this language.
So even though the language is probably eligible, it's better to start it from a blank slate when someone who actually knows it comes in.
== Carpathian Romani == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Carpath... Code: rmc My take: Eligible.
== Central Kanuri == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: knc My take: Eligible, and should probably be even marked as "approved".
== Siberian Yupik == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Siberia... Code: ess My take: Eligible. I don't have a problem with the fact that it's spoken by fewer than 1000 people. The request was made by someone who made meaningful contributions to Russian Wikipedia articles about languages of that group. Unfortunately, the request is quite old, but go figure, it can come alive.
== Central Tagbanwa == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Central... Code: tgt My take: Eligible, but it is one of several requests made by the same user, who didn't do much else. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Boineun .
== Chitonga == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chitong... Code: toi My take: Eligible.
== Chuj == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuj Code: cac My take: Probably eligible. Almost all the contribution to the request and to the Incubator is by a Ukrainian user, but there's also a bit of contribution by someone who may be an actual speaker, albeit six years ago :(
== Chuuk == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chuukes... Code: chk My take: The language looks eligible, but I pinged the user who created the request recently to check that they actually plan to work on it: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gusss35
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