---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you.
Hello, Amiu, and thank you for pointing this out! This is indeed something we should look into before making a final approval. The fact that there is an existing open-source converter looks promising, and hopefully we can adapt this to MediaWiki quite easily. I'll reach out to the Sylheti community to ask for their input as well.
tor. 15. juni 2023 kl. 07:58 skrev MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com:
---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
Have you gotten any replies from the Sylheti community about this?
Am Do., 15. Juni 2023 um 09:03 Uhr schrieb Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby@gmail.com
:
Hello, Amiu, and thank you for pointing this out! This is indeed something we should look into before making a final approval. The fact that there is an existing open-source converter looks promising, and hopefully we can adapt this to MediaWiki quite easily. I'll reach out to the Sylheti community to ask for their input as well.
tor. 15. juni 2023 kl. 07:58 skrev MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com:
---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I asked the main contributor to this project about this, I don't know if this will help with the approval process[1][2]. Could you please take a look?
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Notification_from_Sy... [2] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wp/syl/Transliteration
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2023년 6월 28일 (수) 오후 4:34, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com님이 작성:
Have you gotten any replies from the Sylheti community about this?
Am Do., 15. Juni 2023 um 09:03 Uhr schrieb Jon Harald Søby < jhsoby@gmail.com>:
Hello, Amiu, and thank you for pointing this out! This is indeed something we should look into before making a final approval. The fact that there is an existing open-source converter looks promising, and hopefully we can adapt this to MediaWiki quite easily. I'll reach out to the Sylheti community to ask for their input as well.
tor. 15. juni 2023 kl. 07:58 skrev MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com:
---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
-- mvh Jon Harald Søby _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I wonder if there is a committee member who will evaluate this issue. Once this issue is resolved, we can begin verification for this language. This project has demonstrated sustainability through sufficient activities.
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2023년 8월 21일 (월) 오후 9:57, Sotiale Wiki sotiale.wm@gmail.com님이 작성:
I asked the main contributor to this project about this, I don't know if this will help with the approval process[1][2]. Could you please take a look?
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Notification_from_Sy... [2] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wp/syl/Transliteration
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2023년 6월 28일 (수) 오후 4:34, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com님이 작성:
Have you gotten any replies from the Sylheti community about this?
Am Do., 15. Juni 2023 um 09:03 Uhr schrieb Jon Harald Søby < jhsoby@gmail.com>:
Hello, Amiu, and thank you for pointing this out! This is indeed something we should look into before making a final approval. The fact that there is an existing open-source converter looks promising, and hopefully we can adapt this to MediaWiki quite easily. I'll reach out to the Sylheti community to ask for their input as well.
tor. 15. juni 2023 kl. 07:58 skrev MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com
:
---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
-- mvh Jon Harald Søby _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Does anyone have any comments regarding this? I constantly receive review requests from their community, but I have no response.. :(
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2023년 9월 30일 (토) 오후 10:26, Sotiale Wiki sotiale.wm@gmail.com님이 작성:
I wonder if there is a committee member who will evaluate this issue. Once this issue is resolved, we can begin verification for this language. This project has demonstrated sustainability through sufficient activities.
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2023년 8월 21일 (월) 오후 9:57, Sotiale Wiki sotiale.wm@gmail.com님이 작성:
I asked the main contributor to this project about this, I don't know if this will help with the approval process[1][2]. Could you please take a look?
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Notification_from_Sy... [2] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wp/syl/Transliteration
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2023년 6월 28일 (수) 오후 4:34, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com님이 작성:
Have you gotten any replies from the Sylheti community about this?
Am Do., 15. Juni 2023 um 09:03 Uhr schrieb Jon Harald Søby < jhsoby@gmail.com>:
Hello, Amiu, and thank you for pointing this out! This is indeed something we should look into before making a final approval. The fact that there is an existing open-source converter looks promising, and hopefully we can adapt this to MediaWiki quite easily. I'll reach out to the Sylheti community to ask for their input as well.
tor. 15. juni 2023 kl. 07:58 skrev MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com
:
---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
-- mvh Jon Harald Søby _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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The problem is valid, but probably not a blocker.
If the current content is valid in that script, it can be approved, especially if a reasonable converter can be made.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ה׳, 15 ביוני 2023 ב-8:58 מאת MF-Warburg < mfwarburg@googlemail.com>:
---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
... Oh, and I would also have doubts if the current Sylheti Incubator editors start strongly objecting to using the other script. It sounds like a case where both scripts should be allowed, and rejecting one of them too strongly is a serious community problem.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ה׳, 15 ביוני 2023 ב-10:39 מאת Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>:
The problem is valid, but probably not a blocker.
If the current content is valid in that script, it can be approved, especially if a reasonable converter can be made.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ה׳, 15 ביוני 2023 ב-8:58 מאת MF-Warburg < mfwarburg@googlemail.com>:
---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Mi., 14. Juni 2023 um 23:21 Uhr Subject: Fwd: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: langcom-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ami Keu amitumi1234amitumi1234@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 June, 2023 at 10:05 PM Subject: A problem of Sylheti Wikipedia and possible soultions To: jhsoby@wikimedia.no jhsoby@wikimedia.no
Hi Jon, I don't know if this is the correct email to write this.
Thank you for initiating approval for Sylheti Wikipedia https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/langcom@lists.wikimedia.org/thre...
I would like to point out one thing. Langcom should be aware that Sylheti wikipedia uses sylheti nagri script. And not many sylheti people can actually read or write this script. Most sylheti uses Bengali alphabet to write sylheti (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sylhetis#Sylheti_nagri_script )
I can see there is a discussion about this on sylheti wikipedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/syl/%EA%A0%9D%EA%A0%A5%EA%A0%9F...) where a sylheti pointed out that there is an organization did a survey and found out only 12-25 thousands people can actually write or read this script.
There are c. 10.3 millions sylheti, which means sylheti wikipedia will be un-accessible for vast majority of sylheti.
There is also pointed out that possible solutions would be lang converter like some wiki has. I would request langcom to create or ask developer to create a lang converter for sylheti wikipedia. Mapping already exists, see https://github.com/mayeenulislam/nagri-bangla
Thank you. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org