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Languages that are Arabic
by Gerard Meijssen 03 Aug '15

03 Aug '15

Hoi, At the time we accepted Egyptian, there was quite some ruckus because it was considered politically incorrect to accept this. Now that we have a request for "Algerian Arabic", it is prudent to ask what our position is. I am all in favour by the way.. Thanks, Gerard

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Approval of South Azerbaijani Wikipedia
by Mjbmr 14 Jul '15

14 Jul '15

Hello, Please give us (the community) update about the approval. Thank you.

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Azeri Latin vs. Arabic
by Amir E. Aharoni 05 Jul '15

05 Jul '15

Hi, The thing I feared has happened: A conflict erupted in the Azeri Wikipedia over the question of whether articles in Arabic script should be there, or only in Latin. A consensus was not reached, but an administrator decided to delete thousands of pages in the Arabic script nevertheless. This is a very severe action, and I suspect that that administrator's permissions should be suspended, but that's a matter for Meta stewards. I raise this question here, because a proper long-term solution for the problem is needed. As a reminder, the Azeri language is written in two scripts: Latin in the Republic of Azerbaijan, and Arabic in the Azerbaijan region in Northern Iran. As far as I know, both are actively used, and the users of each script cannot read the other one. Automatic conversion between the two scripts, as it is done for Kazakh and Serbian, is impossible, because the Latin orthography doesn't include capital letters and vowels. Until recently, the two scripts somehow lived together in the same wiki, despite the major technical problems with it, among them: * The users of the different alphabets cannot really have common conversations ("Village Pump"). * Only one article can be linked using Wikidata (to resolve this, major changes are needed in MediaWiki core and in Wikidata) * Be default the Latin script is used for the UI, which is not useful for anonymous readers who want to use the Arabic script. * The two scripts have different directionality, and this requires adding markup to show the pages correctly. But as I wrote above, now this long period of peace has ended, and unfortunately there is a major conflict. In the past we already discussed the possibility of creating a separate Wikipedia in the Arabic script: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_South_… IIRC, we decided not to support it, but I'd like to discuss this again. My impression is that there are good-faith contributors who want to write in the Arabic script, and now they are essentially expelled, and this is wrong. Other opinions are welcome. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Western Baluchi language Wikipedia
by Ibrahim Baloch 30 Jun '15

30 Jun '15

Hello any update for approve western baluchi wikipedia? Thanks -- Ибрахим Белудж

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Kurdish Dialects
by Mjbmr 30 Jun '15

30 Jun '15

While ku stands for Kurdish macrolanguage, why kuwiki is written in Northern Kurdish?

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Konkani in Latin, too?
by Asaf Bartov 27 Jun '15

27 Jun '15

Hi, folks. I'm drawing your attention to this request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Goan_K… It seems to me it is a matter for this committee and for the existing community of Devanagari Konkani (apparently partially overlapping with the Latin Konkani contributor base!) to determine. I.e. whether Latin articles should live in gom.wikipedia.org alongside Devanagari or not, and if not, whether a separate Latin Konkani Wikipedia is warranted, or whether a script-transliteration gadget like the Serbian one is possible. A. -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org

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Re: [Langcom] Conformation letter of Lori articles
by Oliver Stegen 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

Dear fellow committee members, With Dr. Mehdi Moshkriz' response - for which many thanks! -, the issue of Northern Luri wikipedia has been solved to my satisfaction. If any of you have remaining issues concerning verification of the content of Northern Luri articles in the incubator, please direct these to Dr. Mehdi Moshkriz until Monday, June 8th. I propose, if a) no issues will have been forthcoming until then and/or b) any questions which were posted have been answered, that Northern Luri be transferred from the incubator to its own wikipedia domain. Thanks, Oliver On 30-May-15 12:29 PM, Mehdi Moshkriz wrote: > Dear Language Committee Wikimedia, > This is to certify that the articles which written by Mr. Mohammad Mogoei and his other colleagues (Mogoeilor, Lurvand, Bonevarluri, Sajadlor & Mehramooz) are linguistic and semantic correct and complete. > My name's Mehdi Moshkriz. I am an assistant professor for Linguistics. My area of specialization is Lori language and New-west Iranian Dialects. Prof Dr. Erok Anonby and Prof. Dr. Oliver Stegen demand me to verify and overview these articles. > Therefore, I highly verify these Luri articles of Wikimedia because in my opinion these articles are written carefully, correctly and thoroughly. > Please do not hesitate to contact me if any further information is needed. > > Your Sincerely, > Mehdi Moshkriz, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor of Linguistics > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

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Conformation letter of Lori articles
by Mehdi Moshkriz 30 May '15

30 May '15

Dear Language Committee Wikimedia, This is to certify that the articles which written by Mr. MohammadMogoei and his other colleagues (Mogoeilor, Lurvand, Bonevarluri,Sajadlor & Mehramooz) are linguistic and semantic correct andcomplete.My name's Mehdi Moshkriz. I am an assistant professor forLinguistics. My area of specialization is Lori language and New-west IranianDialects. Prof Dr. Erok Anonby and Prof. Dr. Oliver Stegen demand me to verifyand overview these articles.Therefore, I highly verify these Luri articles of Wikimedia becausein my opinion these articles are written carefully, correctly and thoroughly.Please do not hesitate to contact me if any further information isneeded. Your Sincerely,Mehdi Moshkriz, Ph.D.AssistantProfessor of Linguistics

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Approval of Luri Wikipedia
by Mjbmr 08 May '15

08 May '15

Hi, I ask langcom members for approval of Luri Wikipedia, here are some top articles I could list, but there are more of them 1. استیو جابز </wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2> (Steve Jobs) 2. آلورت انیشتین </wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86> (Albert Einstein) 3. کلمبیا </wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7> (Colombia) 4. شهید چمران </wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86> (Mostafa Chamran) 5. شایا عیلامی </wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C> (List of rulers of Elam) 6. کارلوس فوئنتس </wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3> (Carlos Fuentes) Analysis <https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wik…> shows that this project has enough users and most of mediawiki message <https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc>has been translated.

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Thanks
by Gerard Meijssen 07 May '15

07 May '15

Hoi, FYI we have a technical issue with Serbian.. The codes that are used are wrong. They have been chosen for whatever reason but technically they are only distinguishing Serbian in Latin and Cyrillic script. We cannot identify in this way and use instead dialectal differences. Technically this is wrong and it may become an argument in future to split Serbian. Correct codes would be sr-Cyrl and sr-Latn Thanks is for trying to diffuse the Northern Luri thing. :) Gerard

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