There were no objections in the last seven days, so after all these years, this project is approved. I'll take care of getting things rolling later today.
Steven
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Look, any way you cut it, Alemannic is just different. SIL lists it as "Individual", not as a "Macrolanguage". But the code ("gsw", of course, not "als") is listed for Alemannic (equivalent to its ISO 639-2 definition), but also "Alsatian" and "Swiss German". Enwiki article describes it as a "dialect continuum". And Swabian is considered to be a language/dialect within Alemannic, which is sort of also acting a bit like a macrolanguage. Sheesh.
In any event, it's actually been six years since anyone commented on the Swabian RFL. (There have been some housekeeping edits since, but no substantive ones.) So this RFL does not represent an attempt by anyone currently contributing in Swabian at alswiki to break off Swabian to do its own thing. If anyone ever creates an RFL along those lines, we can address it at that point. But at present there's no reason not to go ahead and close the current RFL.
Steven
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I promised I was going to keep old project requests moving along after the new year. So here are four:
Wikipedia Swabian<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Swabian>: Propose to reject. Although it has a language code, Swabian is already included within Alemannic Wikipedia. Starting initial seven-day clock on this now.
Wikipedia Manchu<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Manchu…> (on hold since March 2010, waiting for native speakers): Marking eligible. This project has been fairly active on Incubator recently, and the tool to allow the vertical Manchu script is working very nicely.
Wikipedia Kutchi<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Kutchi>: Marking eligible. Has a language code, and about 875,000 speakers in India and Pakistan.
Wikipedia Kumaoni<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Kumaoni>: Marking as "on hold". In principle, should be eligible. But there is no test project on Incubator, and most speakers are bilingual in Hindi. (It's not that these are mutually intelligible languages, just that Hindi is a lingua franca in the area.) So I'd like to place this on hold until someone comes who is interested in starting the project.
Steven
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Well, there was a discussion starting about December 3, 2016 that MF-Warburg started. Milos and Gerard responded favorably (providing language check was positive). Amir was concerned the test might have been too stubby. There were no other comments, and there’s been nothing since (except for discussion about the lack of response of a language expert).
The test has been running on Incubator for nearly 11 years. It’s probably still a little on the stubby side, in my view. But it’s remained active all year while awaiting “language confirmation”, all the interface translation is done, and it’s got a lot of pages. And they’ve clearly cleaned up the quality of the language. So here’s my suggestion:
* Let’s open a new discussion week here, just for transparency.
* I’d suggest (but of course can’t demand) not letting “stubbiness” get in the way at this point. When I inform them of approval, I’ll certainly strongly encourage them to build up the pages they already have going forward. The community has been active, and its members have been really patient in continuing to work on for all these years. I think they deserve our recognition and support at this point.
Steven
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