>
>Congratulations to all!
>I hope that we will have a fruitful collaboration.
>
>
>
Congratulations
I am afraid the Dutch wikimedia chapter is to bogged down and not moving
at the moment ;) To many Dutch people involved.
Waerth/Walter
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From: Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com>
Date: 20-Jun-2005 01:38
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Requests page
To: Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com>
Simple German failed? I saw an awful lot of support, and it was
definitely still a hot topic.
Parseltongue, pretty much dead, yes. Pig Latin, a pretty silly request
in the first place, but you must admit it got two supporters, and the
issue was never really resolved head-on as it should've been.
Sindarin, part of an ongoing debate about artificial language
Wikipedias, can now be found at [[Requests for new languages/Tolkien
languages]], along with Quenya.
Silbo Gomero did not fail, nor was it rediculous.
Such requests as Parseltongue, or maybe even Pig Latin, do not disturb
me that much that you removed them, and I certainly would not have
added them back (well actually, I didn't add Parseltongue back, only
Pig Latin), had you not also gotten rid of scores of more questionable
cases.
As Angela noted, in the past requests have just been deleted. But they
were seldom legit requests for real languages, and when they were they
were often left up for a long time because the page never got very big
(*cough*scottgall*cough*). I don't think it was until very recently
that actual legitimate requests began being deleted, especially after
a time of less than a few months.
What should be pursued is NOT a policy of widespread deletion of
requests after time-limits, but rather of calming down the surge of
activity by somehow getting Scott Gall to request every tomian,
dickler, and harryish language he reads about on Wikipedia. He
requested an Ainu Wikipedia, and didn't even know that the Japanese
and Chinese Ainu are not related.
I left him a note on his talkpage asking him to withdraw some of his
requests, and to refrain from making so many. It seems that
NaziismIsntCool has begun to follow Scott's example and is now
requesting new WPs frequently, this should be quickly curbed with a
note on her talkpage explaining that the page is meant for serious
requests only.
Mark
On 20/06/05, Wouter Steenbeek <musiqolog(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Yes, since a few of the Wikipedias you removed weren't because they
> >were old or because they failed, but because you decided they were
> >"rediculous".
> >
> And few did not agree with me.
>
> Judge yourself: Pig Latin, Parseltongue, Silbo Gomero, Simple German,
> Sindarin (which /nota bene/ both had my support but FAILED!), and a hell of
> a lot of mainly African languages being placed months ago, supported by
> NO-ONE, posted anonymously and even without any discussion!
>
> W.
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I finally got round to chasing down the edition of Time with the wikipedia article in it. I thought it was quite a good article. Best of all, I got to see a picture of our founder. Jimbo looks like a pretty normal bloke - in fact, weren't you standing next to me at the footy the other day?
You might recall that around the time this article appeared there was some talk about the press not being interested in the smaller wiki projects, etc. Anyway, as chance would have it, a couple of days ago I get an e-mail from a lady saying she is a journalist with some Italian newspaper and wants to write about my web site (presumably that meant scn.wiki, but I wasn't sure). Being a competent, modern male, I did what comes naturally and absolutely panicked - flick passing the message to some of my fellow wikipedians who might be better positioned geographically (is that a tautology?). The thought of trying to speak Italian over a bad line from Tuggeranong, and trying to pronounce my unaccented O's and E's correctly was more than I could stand.
Anyway, my colleague, Peppi (who is actually based in Switzerland), did get through to her. As it turns out, she is writing about a number of sicilian websites, but it looks like we are getting a definite mention. In case you are anywhere near Palermo in the next few days, you might be able to catch the article in the Palermo edition of La Repubblica (I hope I spelled that correctly).
Tanti cosi beddi e salutamu.
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Hi,
a moment ago I found that the article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthera
contains a big OS X (tiger) image. First I thought that this is a joke, but
then I discovered that it seems just to be a mistake, but one I do not know
how to avoid efficiently.
The Panthera article contains a link to Image:Tiger.jpg which is loaded from
commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Tiger.jpg). Yesterday user
WikiED uploaded an image Tiger.jpg with the Mac OS X to _en.wikipedia.org_.
Loading the article now means that Image:Tiger.jpg now refers to the en:
version of that image and by that the article now shows a different image (of
course without showing anything on my watchlist).
As user WikiED probably does not know about commons he probably did not know
that his upload caused problems in several articles. Is there anything one
can do about avoiding such problems, e.g. is it possible to force a load from
commons? Something like commons:Image:Tiger.jpg unfortunately does not seem
to work. Also in the upload form it would be helpful to get a warning about a
potential naming conflict.
best regards,
Marco
Wikimedia Italia, the italian chapter of Wikimedia Foundation, has
been formed on Friday 17th 2005 in [[w:it:Canino|Canino]] by 18
wikimedians (some photos are avalaible on
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Costituzione_dell%27Associazione_Wikimedi…>).
The day after we had our first assembly, which confirmed our first board:
* [[w:it:Frieda|Frieda]], president
* [[w:it:Snowdog|Snowdog]], vicepresident
* [[w:it:Gac|Gac]], councilor
* [[w:it:M7|M/]], councilor
* [[w:it:Sbisolo|Sbisolo]], councilor
In this moment we already have 35 members!
Frieda
OK, cool down a bit, both of you... Mark, Waerth is right that you meddle
very much with cases concerning languages. You are quite dominant in that.
On the other hand, if you really triggered the creation of the Ossetic and
Friulian Wikipedias, it's pretty good work, and I for one appreciate that.
Wouter
>Do you realise that chances are, if you don't respond again, I won't
>either? If you don't like getting messages from me, do you think it
>helps to send such retorts?
>
>In newsgroups this is called "flamebait".
>
>Mark
>
>On 20/06/05, Walter van Kalken <walter(a)vankalken.net> wrote:
> > Mark Williamson wrote:
> >
> > >Could you explain what you mean here?
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > That when it comes to languages you always need to have the last word.
> > And keep on going and going and going.
> >
> > Waerth/Walter
> >
>
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I am not sure who is in fact responsible for this but I noticed no new Wikipedias have been set up for quite a few months now. The Cebuano editors are so committed. Their request should be given the highest priority. They shouldn't be kept hanging on the line anymore!
Boris
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Dear fellow list subscribers,
Yesterday I had the unpleasant experience that Mark Williamson scolded me
for "Censor" and "Thought police". The reason was that I had deleted some of
the requests on the Requests for new languages page on meta
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages), and
subsequently he placed most of them back, along with some other ones that
had been removed by long, and not by me.
As a matter of facts, I got /furious/ and if Mark had stood right before me
I would have spit into his face. Later however, he eludicated the reason why
he placed them back, and we seem to agree on more things than I thought at
first. The page /is/ really getting overloaded with requests and becomes too
long. The difference was, he wanted to keep them anyway.
I may opinion, the right solution is to cut-and-paste them to an archive,
newly to be created. I could very well create it right now, but thanks to
Mark's great action I am unsure whether this wil be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Incompetent, inautoritive censor and thought police Wouter Steenbeek.
Btw: it seems perhaps a little inappropriate to discuss this meta topic on
the Wikipedia mailing list, but since the topic is realted to the creation
of new Wikipedias I took the liberty to post it here.
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Hi all.
I've been looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wikistats/EN/Sitemap.htm,
which gives a quite interesting set of statistics. I note we have a
(fragmentary) set of stats on the number of visits; do we have any
figures on the breakdown of those by browser?
I was about to quote some statistics on en:wiki about usage, and it
struck me that if we had a rough breakdown for wikipedia, rather than
relying on the wildly fluctuating ones across the web, it'd be useful
to know, even if no more than a vague snapshot from a year ago.
Thanks,
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David Gerard wrote:
>Unfortunately, unless a lot of good coding happens in reasonably short
>order, Special:Validate probably won't be enabled on en: for 1.5 (to be
>released next weekend). Brion has serious concerns with the present code.
>
>
Since Brion states one of his major concerns as the fact that it loads
metadata for all revisions of the page, can't we restrict the validation
feature so that it only gets applied to the current revision? At least
for the time being, I don't think this feature needs greater capability
than that in order to be useful for testing purposes.
Ratings from the validation feature could still attach specifically to a
particular revision, since the database will now be assigning unique
revision data to current versions, if I understand correctly. And for
those few cases where someone might be wishing to validate something
other than the current revision, it's likely that either the article is
in sufficient flux that they can wait briefly for a version they want,
or they can edit the article themselves before rating it.
--Michael Snow
