As you may or may not already know, Mongolian is one of the few
languages in the world that is written vertically _all_ the time
(Japanese, Chinese, and a few others can be written vertically, but
they can also be written horizontally).
Although Outer Mongolia (ie, the independent nation, as opposed the
Inner Mongolia which is currently administered by the People's
Republic of China) switched decades ago to the Cyrillic script for
Mongolian (due to pressure from their favourite ally and neighbour,
the USSR), since 1994 great efforts have been made to reintroduce the
Mongolian script. Many Outer Mongolians can read it, and it's being
taught in schools now.
Inner Mongolia never switched scripts: it has used Mongolian script
continuously now since its emergence.
Now, the issue here isn't which script to use as that can be worked
out later. The issue here is how we would organise a vertical website.
W3C standards spell out how to make vertical text properly using HTML.
However, this isn't supported by all browsers (Firefox, for one,
doesn't support it).
Also, since the user interface is designed for languages that are
written horizontally, it may be difficult to adapt to Mongolian. The
typical solution is to flip EVERYTHING 90 degrees counterclockwise.
A representation of what a proper implementation of Mongolian script
protocols on mn.wiki should look like can be found here:
(it's pretty neat, actually)
SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIVM ERVDITIONIS HABES
QVANTVM MATERIAE MATERIETVR MARMOTA MONAX SI MARMOTA MONAX MATERIAM
ESTNE VOLVMEN IN TOGA AN SOLVM TIBI LIBET ME VIDERE
Brion Vibber wrote in a message I did not receive:
This sometimes happens as a temporary glitch (message cache breaks and
some requests use the defaults for a few minutes; those then may be
cached so they're visible longer).
Can you check if it's still doing it? (Try logging out/in.)
- This has been going on for a few days now and still occurs. Actually, the
right and outdated versions alternate and we seem to receive them /ad
random/. It could of course be temporary, but it is getting galling now...
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Hi, on the Italian wiktionary someone with only IP added the above term
with a capital letter. The definition says that it means "ice" or is a
person's name. Now I tried to check with is.wikipedia/is.wiktionary and
I found out that indeed it is a persons name, but I cannot find a
reference to its meaning of "ice".
Anyway when it means "ice" doesn't it need the spelling "jökull" with a
lower case "j"?
I hope there's someone talking this language on the list, otherwise I'll
just add the name and delete the rest.
Sorry for crossposting, but since this is a seldom language chances are
higher that someone can help me.
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I always take my democratic right to vote very seriously. I thought I would share with the rest of the world my thought processes in selecting amongst the excellent candidates for the whatyamacallit.
I voted one for Anthere because it is a such a beautiful name.
I voted two for Angela because her name is very similar to my surname.
I voted three for one of the token blokes - in the name of fairness and diversity - I am a firm believer in voting on principles and the big picture.
I hope that more of us can open up and share our voting experience, speaking personally, I found this to be quite cathartic.
pippu d'angelo, canberra
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[mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tim Starling
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:11 PM
Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: DB migration issue
Edward De Jongh wrote:
> Hi all I have an issue with migrating a current wiki from RHES8 to
> Debian Sarge. Is this the right list to post to? If not please let me
> know which is the correct list.
You want mediawiki-l:
-- Tim Starling
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If you haven't heard, the board member elections are official on.
I'd like to encourage everyone who is eligible to participate, but I'd
also like to encourage you do like I did and cast a blank ballot.
Because we use approval voting, a blank ballot is the same as voting
for everyone and the same as not voting for all. But it is also
different because it shows your interest in the process, without
either approving of or disapproving of any particular candidate. Since
there already votes there is no risk of us going without a board,
which is good. :)
I have posted why I choose to vote blank and why I think you should do
the same on my userpage, and I welcome comments.