Anthere-
> just an opinion
> I agree with Kat it may not be a very good idea to
ask
> for money in a press release.
Erik answered
We should not ask for it, but we should subtly make
readers aware of
the
community fundraising process, so that those who
already use Wikipedia
occasionally and always wanted to give something back
and who read the
PR
know that they now have the opportunity to do so.
Regards,
Erik
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The occasionnal reader, seing the PR in the press will
probably have the reaction to drop by. Then, he may
see a donation link quite well, if placed
appropriately on the main page. We can make it quite
proeminent during promotion time.
Anthere
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Hello,
I am a graduate student at the MIT Media Lab and this summer I'm working on a project that is related to Wikis. A couple of weeks ago I sent out a message to this list telling you about the project and asking whether folks would be available to chat with me about Wikipedia.
Since then we have put together an online survey to find out how Wikipedians use and contribute to the Wikipedia site and we would be delighted if you could take the survey and share your insights with us.
The survey is anonymous and it should take only five minutes of your time. It is located here:
http://smg.media.mit.edu/survey/wikipedia.html
Thank you so much for your attention and feel free to email me if you have any questions about the survey.
Fernanda Viegas
http://web.media.mit.edu/~fviegas/
sociable media group
mit media laboratory
Jimmy Wales wrote:
>I will be adding donation -at- wikipediafoundation.org
>as soon as I have access to that, probably later today
>(thanks, mav!).
You are welcome. But there is no such thing as the Wikipedia Foundation and
thus that is not one of the domain names that I purchased for the foundation.
But you should now have all the user names and passwords of the
wikimediafounation.org/.com.
Since there is some confusion and common misuse of Wikimedia vs Wikipedia, it
may be a good idea for you to purchase wikipediafoundation.org/.com and
forward those domain names to wikimediafoundation.org/.com. The less than 20
US$ a year it will cost to hold these two domain names would probably be
easily recouped by donations from people who naively typed
"wikipediafoundation.org" instead of "wikimediafoundation.org". However, at
the same time we shouldn't go crazy with snagging up and accepting domain
names; the cost to maintain these do add up.
I would purchase them for the Foundation myself but as of Aug 31 the CA state
contract I've been working under is defended due to a historic state budget
crisis.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Erik Zachte wrote on Sat Aug 23 00:01:50 UTC 2003:
> Still I think Germany would be a better start for a non US bank account,
> due to its size and number of wikipedians there. It would still be a
> worthwile undertaking even if it could not service as an inlet for
> donations from other EU countries.
It is now free of charge to send money in Europe. I did it already(DE->FR).
It works. You just have to ask for the rules and follow them.
Joachim (aka Fantasy :-)
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Jake wrote:
>Spell checker, eh? I attributed it to some sort of
>subconscious malice toward the other projects.
>Hmmmmm...
Perhaps. But then why am I putting so much time and positive energy into
Wikibooks and in International coordination between Wikipedia versions?
--mav
Replace the second paragraph of my last post with this:
<blockquote>
Of course this isn't much of a pressing issue for the non-English language
versions of Wikipedia since Wikiquote, Wiktionary and Wikibooks are only in
English so far. So it still makes sense to have their documentation on their
own wikis but longer term all common Wikimedia and MediaWiki documention
should be on meta.
</blockquote>
In other words replace "decimation" with "documentation" (damn spell checker!
:)
--mav
Fantasy wrote:
>Can we already put this Informations on
>http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Donations
>or do you prefer to have wikimedia.org up first and only there the
>instructions?
There should be one place for all this and IMO it should be developed on meta
(which in turn should be moved to the wikimedia.org domain). There is little
reason to replicate the same English language meta text between Wikipedia,
Wiktionay, Wikiquote and Wikibooks. As a matter of fact, I've found that
there is a great deal of documentation especially about MediaWiki that could
be centrally organized and maintained; meta is a good place to do this.
Of course this isn't much of a pressing issue for the non-English language
versions of Wikipedia since Wikiquote, Wiktionary and Wikibooks are only in
English so far. So it still makes sense to have their decimation on their own
wikis but longer term all common Wikimedia and MediaWiki documention should
be on meta.
Heck, it might also be neat to develop /all/ wikimediafounation.org pages on
meta and then have those displayed as regular webpages to anybody who visits
wikimediafoundation.org.
Just some ideas.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Merrit L. Perkins wrote:
> I think of a server as having several large hard drives and the
> related hardware so that it can act as a large database. The subject
> is too complicated for a brief description.
Oh, no no, Merrit, I'm afraid you've misunderstood. Think "server"
as in "food server". We need money to hire a waiter to bring Jimbo
his food and spoon-feed him. That way, he can work on Wikipedia
16 hours a day without taking a break to eat. If we have enough left
over, we'll also buy him a catheter.
Stephen Gilbert
I think of a server as having several large hard drives and the related
hardware so that it can act as a large database. The subject is too
complicated for a brief description.
How servers work is described in "howstuffworks", "How Domain Servers
Work". It seems that each server is a large database and that they all
can communicate with one another and that several servers communicate
with each other to reach the desired information. The same information
may be stored on more than one server so that if one server fails the
information will not be lost.
Why do you want to get a server? Is your present server not working
right, likely to fail, or not large enough? Do you want to replace it? Do
you want to store a copy of the information on your present server on
another server?
Will you have backup power supplies on your servers?
Merritt L. Perkins
Delirium wrote:
> Out of curiosity, does this apply across the entire EU, or only within
> the euro-zone? For example, could you send money DE->UK (or vice versa)
> for free?
I did this recently. As Joachim said, it is free if you provide the SWIFT
and IBAN code, but there is one catch: it is only free if the transfer is
in euros (i.e., if the UK account is in euros). Otherwise, the English
bank will charge you - in my case (Barclays), the charge is six pounds.
However, if I understand it correctly, the German bank won't be able to
charge you; before, both banks charged you. The rule is from 1 July 2003,
so not all bank employees know about it.
Hope this helps,
Jitse Niesen