nobody(a)nowhere.invalid (Unknown) wrote in
> I know a lot of people who thought the Esperanto
> Wikipedia was the only language that existed in the
> project and I'd imagine that we're not alone in this.
> I started promoting www.vikipedio.org because people
> got confused when we promoted eo.wikipedia.org.
> I also know a lot of people who don't speak English
> who simply click off a page if they see that it's not
> in a language they understand, thus they'd never get
> past the English front page of Wikipedia. Also, a
> dropdown box like we use at www.tejo.org might work as
> well, instead of the portal as planned, but I think
> the multilingual portal at www.wikipedia.org is
> Also, what's wrong if people have linked to
> www.wikipedia.org from their webpages. It will still
> go to Wikipedia, they don't need to change their
> links! The Wikipedia is a multilingual project, not
> just an English project. Plus, this is one of the
> reasons why the Spanish project won't merge back with
> I'm crossposting this on Intlwiki-L and Wikipedia-L so
> all can participate. I recommend that we continue
> this discussion on Wikipedia-L.
It seems clear to my that the English Wikipedia is not willing to give up
his prominend location at www.wikipedia.org.
The first time I requested to move the Engelish Wikipedia was in october or
december 2001. And again whit the change form .com to .org and later also.
The best thing every Wikipedia can do is to obtain the national wikipedia-
domain and use that for promotion.
There are already the domains;
www.wikipedia.nl -> the dutch and frysian wikipedia
www.wikipedia.be -> the dutch, french and german wikipedia
www.wikipedia.de -> the german wikipedia
www.wikipedia.pl -> the polisch wikipedia
www.vikipedio.org -> the esperanto wikipedia
The folowing domains are still free and should be registerd by there
www.wikipedia.dkwww.wikipedia.nowww.wikipedia.fr -> the french and catalan wikipedia
and Spain,Portugal, ....
And also, keep the controll over the domain local, at least until there is
a non-proffit organisation.
Contact: giskart AT wikipedia.be
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>It is a little weird, but we can easily adjust to
>it. If someone starts using that account to do
>naughty things, we will just ban
>the account. If someone keeps doing this, we'll have
>to deal with
>it when it comes up.
>Historically speaking, we haven't had a lot of
>trouble with people
>trying to subvert the system.
I don't think that it is a good idea to allow this
because it becomes impossible to track who is doing
what if multiple different people are using the same
user name at the same time. I know this also happens
due to cheap-ass ISPs who use proxies but it is
relatively rare that two people from the same IP edit
at the same time. They also don't have a real choice
in the matter.
Being a logged-in user has many benefits - but it also
has added accountability. This is subverted by having
a full-featured 'guest account.'
PS I just checked and some evil person has changed the
password to something other than "hello" or "HELLO."
But there still is a policy issue here to keep in
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Jason Williams wrote:
> [[User:MyPasswordIsHELLO]] - I think this user account should
> be deleted, since it subverts the user account system.
Hmm. The existence of this account would seem to make banning people
impossible, since anyone could sign in under this name and make edits.
However, I suspect that the intention of whoever made the account was to
enable people to make truly anonymous edits. Simply not signing in at all
would probably allow one to do this for a while, but people might
eventually spot the pattern in one's edits and work out which IP address
corresonds to which user.
I'm not entirely comfortable with the idea of anonymous edits myself,
because of the difficulty in contacting contributors to check things with
them. However, if there is a consensus that anonymous edits are a good
idea, there could perhaps be a new check box on the "Edting" page, saying,
"Make this edit anonymous". I'm not necessarily recommending this, but I
suppose it might come in useful if someone wants to make a valid
contribution which they nevertheless would rather not be associated with.
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> Please don't do that, folks -- it slows the site for
> everyone to the
> point where it's barely usable.
I'm not some little jerk, but I think it would be cool
to have a copy of the Wikipedia on my hard drive. Is
there a place where I can download just the text
(without all the older versions, etc.) ?
Interesting fact: Google returns more
results for "Esperanto" than for "Catalan"
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In a message dated 2/4/2003 5:35:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Certainly I have learned to be increasingly non-argumentative, and I am sure
> DW, TMC, 172, Danny, etc can definitely become even better contributors
> than they are. So no, I don't think we are the real problem, even if we can
> from time to time be offensive because we don't have a high enough level of
> class or protocol.
Huh? What did I do?
Okay, mailing lists should be back up -- they were down due to a thinko
in the firewall configuration (run on bootup) that
a) didn't let it look up the IP addresses of other mail servers and
b) wouldn't let it connect to them and send out mail anyway.
Fixed now. Backed-up messages should still be delivered.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Some jerk at 18.104.22.168 decided it would be a great idea to
download the entire contents of the Wikipedia site as fast as he
possibly could, several pages at a time.
Please don't do that, folks -- it slows the site for everyone to the
point where it's barely usable.
I have banned the user-agent 'Teleport' and the specific IP from the
site (temporarily, at least) to spare our poor l'il server. (Load
average went down from 22 to 5.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 03:20:25PM -0000, Eugene Gill wrote:
> I'm quite disgusted at Isis' behaviour to the extent that I've joined this
> mail list so that I can voice my wish (seconding Eloquence's) that Isis be
> removed from sysop status. Furthermore I think she should be banned for
> making ridiculous threats of legal action to a fellow Wikipedian (Tarquin)
> over a comment that as far as I can gather was merely a difference of
You seem ignorant of how the law works. Isis has brought up some valid
issues that the Wikipedia needs to deal with for it's own future safety
I really hope the Wikipedia will not be the type of project that shoots the
messenger when problems are pointed out. Isis is a valuable sysop, and
I would be sad to see his privileges taken away.
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