Gia May giamay1@gmail.com wrote:
Absolutly! We wouldn't want to support the ghetto. It can only lead to gentrification and the sooner we get everyone to boycott them the sooner the'll starve. Thanks for standing up for decency.
Gia
I've seen a few other software oriented groups try the public library. They've all moved on. We may as well just skip that step...
* Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com [2008-02-26 17:53 -0800]:
I've seen a few other software oriented groups try the public library. They've all moved on. We may as well just skip that step...
Can you explain _why_ they've moved on?
Breen Mullins breen.mullins@gmail.com wrote:
- Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com [2008-02-26 17:53 -0800]:
I've seen a few other software oriented groups try the public library. They've all moved on. We may as well just skip that step...
Can you explain _why_ they've moved on?
Because the public library is surrounded by -- and full of -- bums, at all hours of the day. One time, I came inside and there were human feces on the steps.
The tragedy of the commons in San Francisco is that if it's free and has a bathroom, it's full of bums.
I think the library is a good place to meet. It is near transit and parking is available within a few blocks. I did not attend the meet up in the presidio because it was so far from BART. I live in Oakland, ride a bicycle, don't own a car and carshare is a little pricey to use for a hobby.
Hank Chapot
On Feb 26, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Jason Dusek wrote:
Breen Mullins breen.mullins@gmail.com wrote:
- Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com [2008-02-26 17:53 -0800]:
I've seen a few other software oriented groups try the public library. They've all moved on. We may as well just skip that step...
Can you explain _why_ they've moved on?
Because the public library is surrounded by -- and full of -- bums, at all hours of the day. One time, I came inside and there were human feces on the steps.
The tragedy of the commons in San Francisco is that if it's free and has a bathroom, it's full of bums.
-- _jsn
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Another vote for trying out the library, same reasons: oakland, bike, public transit.
Ariel
Στις 26-02-2008, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 19:09 -0800, ο/η Hank Chapot έγραψε:
I think the library is a good place to meet. It is near transit and parking is available within a few blocks. I did not attend the meet up in the presidio because it was so far from BART. I live in Oakland, ride a bicycle, don't own a car and carshare is a little pricey to use for a hobby.
Hank Chapot
* Hank Chapot hchapot@igc.org [2008-02-26 19:09 -0800]:
I think the library is a good place to meet. It is near transit and parking is available within a few blocks. I did not attend the meet up in the presidio because it was so far from BART. I live in Oakland, ride a bicycle, don't own a car and carshare is a little pricey to use for a hobby.
I agree about the Main Library. We all know that there are homeless people in every city in the Bay Area - but I've never seen any particular problem at the Main. If we can arrange a meeting room there, it should be no problem.
If you take BART, you come out of the station and walk across the street and you're there.
This is not at all the high-brow, web 2.0 atmosphere that I had in mind for a Wikipedia event. To quote a recently topical talk page...where is the WIKIPEDIA?
Admittedly, the public library is easier to get to for me, as a Missionite. I'll probably come to this one. All I'm saying is, I've seen it tried before.
Maybe things are better now -- I never go to the public library any more.
High-brow, web 2.0 atmosphere? Um. You must be talking about a considerably more glamorous project than the one I work on -- perhaps one that features Aeron chairs in the lobby, swank cocktail parties held at local museums and late lunches with venture capitalists in Silicon Valley. You know, the project where celebrities swoon when you mention it and the red carpet is rolled out so old-media moguls can kowtow to us as we kick back with with a freshly squeezed guava juice protein shake, put our adidas up on the desk, and write checks for millions to employees with vague job descriptions.
Oh wait, that last bit does happen. Except for the checks for millions part.
At any rate, we have tried lots of different venues around the city looking for a good fit, and I say giving the library a try sounds like a good plan. It's central, easy to get to, and surely we can find somewhere to go for drinks afterwards. If it doesn't work out, we'll try somewhere else. We've had a few offers of space hosting, and there's always outdoors when it warms up a bit. All meetups do not have to be all things to all people, especially since we now seem to be on a bit of a roll with them.
-- phoebe (who is *cough* a librarian)
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com wrote:
This is not at all the high-brow, web 2.0 atmosphere that I had in mind for a Wikipedia event. To quote a recently topical talk page...where is the WIKIPEDIA?
Admittedly, the public library is easier to get to for me, as a Missionite. I'll probably come to this one. All I'm saying is, I've seen it tried before.
Maybe things are better now -- I never go to the public library any more.
-- _jsn
phoebe ayers phoebe.ayers@gmail.com wrote:
High-brow, web 2.0 atmosphere? Um. You must be talking about a considerably more glamorous project than the one I work on -- perhaps one that features Aeron chairs in the lobby, swank cocktail parties held at local museums and late lunches with venture capitalists in Silicon Valley. You know, the project where celebrities swoon when you mention it and the red carpet is rolled out so old-media moguls can kowtow to us as we kick back with with a freshly squeezed guava juice protein shake, put our adidas up on the desk, and write checks for millions to employees with vague job descriptions.
My sarcasm was, I fear, lost in the conversion to plain text.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com wrote:
phoebe ayers phoebe.ayers@gmail.com wrote:
High-brow, web 2.0 atmosphere? Um. You must be talking about a considerably more glamorous project than the one I work on -- perhaps one that features Aeron chairs in the lobby, swank cocktail parties held at local museums and late lunches with venture capitalists in Silicon Valley. You know, the project where celebrities swoon when you mention it and the red carpet is rolled out so old-media moguls can kowtow to us as we kick back with with a freshly squeezed guava juice protein shake, put our adidas up on the desk, and write checks for millions to employees with vague job descriptions.
My sarcasm was, I fear, lost in the conversion to plain text.
*sob* but that was Web 1.0!
Ahh, I so miss Organic.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:45 PM, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com wrote:
phoebe ayers phoebe.ayers@gmail.com wrote:
High-brow, web 2.0 atmosphere? Um. You must be talking about a considerably more glamorous project than the one I work on -- perhaps one that features Aeron chairs in the lobby, swank cocktail parties held at local museums and late lunches with venture capitalists in Silicon Valley. You know, the project where celebrities swoon when you mention it and the red carpet is rolled out so old-media moguls can kowtow to us as we kick back with with a freshly squeezed guava juice protein shake, put our adidas up on the desk, and write checks for millions to employees with vague job descriptions.
My sarcasm was, I fear, lost in the conversion to plain text.
*sob* but that was Web 1.0!
Ahh, I so miss Organic.
Ah! You remind me of the infamous Web 1.0 business plan contest at Wikimania 2006 -- possibly the best part of the conference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-07-24/Wikiman...
I want my Aeron chair, darn it! Forget one laptop per child; where's one aeron for every volunteer?
-- p.
phoebe ayers wrote:
Ah! You remind me of the infamous Web 1.0 business plan contest at Wikimania 2006 -- possibly the best part of the conference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-07-24/Wikiman...
I want my Aeron chair, darn it! Forget one laptop per child; where's one aeron for every volunteer?
Heh.
During the dark days of Bust 1.0 I was headed back to a client's after lunch, and a guy was loading up a semi with used Aerons from a neighboring building. I shot the breeze with him a bit, and then he suddenly burst out with, "Hey ya wanna buy a couple a chairs?"
Nonplussed, I said, "Uh, how much?" He replied, "I dunno. Twenty bucks each?" I said, "For how many?" He waved into the truck and said, "As many as you want." After a brief struggle with my conscience, I thanked him for his offer and went back to work.
Had I been a little less scrupulous, I could have indeed ended up with pretty much one per volunteer. If only I had known!
William
It sounds like there's plenty of consensus for the Main Library at this point, but how big does the room have to be?
I notice that the brand new Glen Park branch library has a meeting room that seats up to 50 people. It appears to be relatively undiscovered on Saturdays. It's a half block from BART and feeder MUNI lines, and there's lots of food options nearlby.
http://sfpl.org/librarylocations/mtgrms/mtingrms.htm
Teresa sfmammamia
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Teresa Ruano sfmammamia@gmail.com wrote:
...the brand new Glen Park branch library...
That's a good idea. Public, BARTable, pleasant and not elitist.
I think I like that idea as well. And by the way: I've uploaded pics from the last meetup to the Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_meetups_in_San_Francisc...
Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Teresa Ruano wrote:
...the brand new Glen Park branch library...
That's a good idea. Public, BARTable, pleasant and not elitist.
Added my own pictures and created a gallery page at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_meetup/San_Francisco/February_20 08.
Cary Bass
Leon Bacud wrote:
I think I like that idea as well. And by the way: I've uploaded pics from the last meetup to the Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_meetups_in_San_Francisc o
Jason Dusek jsnx@lolcatbible.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Teresa Ruano wrote:
...the brand new Glen Park branch library...
That's a good idea. Public, BARTable, pleasant and not elitist.
Teresa Ruano wrote:
It sounds like there's plenty of consensus for the Main Library at this point, but how big does the room have to be?
I notice that the brand new Glen Park branch library has a meeting room that seats up to 50 people. It appears to be relatively undiscovered on Saturdays. It's a half block from BART and feeder MUNI lines, and there's lots of food options nearlby.
Sounds nice, we could try that. :)
-- brion
phoebe ayers wrote:
Ah! You remind me of the infamous Web 1.0 business plan contest at Wikimania 2006 -- possibly the best part of the conference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-07-24/Wikiman...
I want my Aeron chair, darn it! Forget one laptop per child; where's one aeron for every volunteer?
We've got them at the office; apparently there are warehouses *full* of them for cheap thanks to the Web 1.0 Graveyard. :)
-- brion
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