I think the real issue about the Thomas Mensah copyright debacle is that a source that copied material from a primary source is being used as reference. I think we can cure the issue by correcting it. the correct sources should be http://www.thomasmensah.com/ but rather https://web.archive.org/web/20140807111939/http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHom… is being use as reference. however you can see that the Ghana web article was copied word for word -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 23/3/15, Isla Haddow-Flood <islahf(a)africacentre.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-GH] [African Wikimedians] complete deletion of Dr. Thomas Mensah's name from wikimedia To: "Mailing list for African Wikimedians" <african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: "Wikimedia South Africa Administration Team" <wikimedia-za-board(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, "Wikimedia-gh" <Wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, "James Hare" <james.hare(a)wikidc.org> Date: Monday, 23 March, 2015, 9:00 Heya Oral I third both Florence and Douglas, this is not the time to delete, but to improve. Perhaps there can be a Wiki Meetup where the Ghana Usergroup works on sorting out those articles that have been flagged that relate to Ghana. Good thing to do with pizza! warmestIsla On 23 Mar 2015, at 10:49, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Oral Ofori, I think Florence's suggestion is the best.  The deletion option seems to me to be a bit extreme and unnecessary.  Re-writing the existing article so that it better comply's with Wikipedia guidelines should always be the first thing to try.   Cheers, Douglas. On 23 March 2015 at 10:02, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote: Le 22/03/15 20:22, TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori a écrit : I will like to ask your help in beginning proceedings to have the wiki article of Dr. Thomas Mensah totally deleted from Wikipedia and done as soon as possible. This is because the page still comes up whenever you browse his name and it has that copyright tag there but displays nothing whatsover of his biography and achievements. Since Wikipedia is not displaying the bio of his work and achievements then I will ask that it deletes the page completely and his name off their servers as well because that tag implicating copyright issues is in itself defamatory to his character as a highly respected member of the global academic and scientific society. If any one has an address to forward this request to then that will be greatly appreciated, else I say we do what we can as soon as we possibly can to see to the complete removal of Dr. Thomas Mensah from Wikipedia if they do not want his article there, rather than keep his name there and that of Rocky Dawuni under such defamatory circumstances. I am open to whatever ideas anyone might have in seeing to the resolution of the above because Wikipedia or some editors there said it was going to take a week to resolve since the above page a were tagged for deletion on March 6, 2015 and it's been almost half a month now and they have not been completely removed: I speak as a concerned Ghanaian on this matter. Hello Here is the route I recommand to fix that issue. 1) go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thomas_Mensah 2) rework the original article here, without any copyvio in there There are two routes to do this - the easiest (but less satisfactory) one: draft a short and clean version of the article, putting in there only non copyrighted content - the longest (but more satisfactory) one: rewrite the current article (rephrase any sentence that was purely copy pasted from the original website) 3) contact an admin (or typically the guy who blanked the article and put the copyvio tag) and ask him if he is happy with new version 4) if no answer within a week, ask another admin to review the new version. Wait a week again 5) if no answer or if positive answer, copy the reworked text in the talk page in the article space 6) pray (or any appropriate gesture of self confort for you) Ant Thank you, Oral OforiJournalist/Publicist/Social Media Specialist/+12027069881 www.about.me/OralOfori On Mar 9, 2015 4:39 PM, "TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori" <oralofori(a)gmail.com> wrote: Lol, no thats not what the message was shooting for, mistyped that there and thanks for efforts. Shirts about to get wet here :-) On Mar 9, 2015 4:26 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote: Excuse me ? So... you suggest that *I* do the clean-up of the article to remove the copyvios that *YOU* guys added in it... and *THEN* hand it to you to improve ? Or do you suggest that *I* go around look for some editors to improve the article ? This is not what is going to happen... If YOU guys want this article to exist, wet your shirt ;) Ant Le 09/03/15 20:01, TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori a écrit : Ok Florence, let me know when that Rocky becomes a substantial non-cooyvio so I delve into it and add a few touches to beef it up while I cross my fingers for some hope about the Thomas Mensah one too. Thanks, OralJournalist/Publicist/Social Media Specialist/+12027069881 www.about.me/OralOfori On Mar 9, 2015 2:19 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Dawuni That's temporary. I will redelete it afterwards. Guys, if you want to recreate a new article using the non copyvio parts of this one, please do so in an intermediary space. Thanks Ant Le 09/03/15 09:45, rupert THURNER a écrit : Hmmm..  I d love to have the history. It is not my text Rupert On Mar 8, 2015 7:44 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote: Hi I copy pasted the entire text in my email two days ago Rupert... You just need to copy paste it anywhere you feel it is best (online or not online). Ant Le 06/03/15 20:16, rupert THURNER a écrit : Sure, if you could restore it, at least in my or Rex personal namespace... On Mar 6, 2015 7:51 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote: Le 06/03/15 19:41, Florence Devouard a écrit : Le 06/03/15 19:09, rupert THURNER a écrit : Yes please do send this list and try to improve them,  and then tell me how pleasant this work was. Contrary, for the rocky dawuni article I d be interested as well where the copyright infringement was. I do not like that without admin permission it is not possible to look this up... Rupert Also of interest in the conversation: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noti… Otherwise... with a quick study of what is going on about the deletion spree, it seems that... * in all articles, chunks are indeed copyvios. The chunks are smaller or bigger depending on each case. * in many cases, the article is blanked in its entirety, then deleted. Looks like it is a bit overkill to me. I see not why at least a stub could be kept. 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