Yeah @massly the admins are deleting all my articles.
@all
Even if the article has copyright violations in them, an admin's joy of
deleting articles instead of improving them is basically problematic for
me.
I'm sure after deleting potential articles, they go to bed feeling, 'Oh
yeah, I cleaned Wikipedia today. All articles that have slight copyright
violations, I cleared them all. What a good admin I am.'
Then the following morning, the admin wakes up and finds stats about
contributions from Africa and it goes like: "Oh dang! Africans dont
contribute to Wikipedia at all. I wonder what they do with their time. Even
this man, Patrick Awuah who's well known and the founder of Ashesi
University, and Rocky dawuni who's a rock star even is not on Wikipedia. No
way, Africans! You're not pulling your weight."
Then I look at the admin from above and say, 'sheesh, this is unfair!"
If admin's first priority is deleting potentially good articles, then I
wonder where the "assume good faith" begins and ends.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith#Good_faith_and_co…
I know there's another policy on Wikipedia hiding somewhere that conflicts
equally the link above.
Happy Independence day to all Ghanaians, and admins deleting my articles
relating to Ghana from wherever they are.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015, 08:53 masssly <masssly(a)ymail.com> wrote:
> @Rexford
>
> And I just noticed Rocky Dawuni has also now been deleted. What's
> happening...
>
> -Masssly
>
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
> Date:04/03/2015 20:12 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <african-wikimedians@lists.
> wikimedia.org>
> Cc: Wikimedia-gh <Wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-GH] [African Wikimedians] Some IP deleting uploads
> and articles
>
> And those elephants, instead of spending time chasing the not so good
> articles and high level crappy images on Wikipedia, they rather go on easy
> prey and articles relating to celebs not well known, of course because
> persons like myself are toothless and won't have anything to do.
>
> Something I always envisioned happening as long as the whole of Africa has
> no Wikipedia admin to turn around decisions like these.
>
> You know, its hard to think Africanish, if you weren't born as one.
>
> Those elephants are interested in the unnecessaries and instead take fun
> in deleting articles with so much potential
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:08 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly... I believe this was one of the elephants we were trying to
>> tackle at Wiki indaba right?
>>
> On Mar 4, 2015 9:57 PM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
> How Wikipedia rolls? How does it? Deleting legitimate articles and images
>>> because someone at the other end dont know the true origin and considers
>>> every celeb image on Wikipedia to be copyright?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 19:55 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Is that one of your policies too !!!
>>>>
>>>> I used to be in flames and be super furious but after I realized how we
>>>> roll I just chilled. So unfortunately this is how we roll don't worry just
>>>> chill and keep on editing, the machines will decide if your edits are
>>>> worthy to be part of sum of all human knowledge.
>>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Nkansah Rexford <
>>>> nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own
>>>>> policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by
>>>>> someone or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't
>>>>> contest for its undeletion. Never!
>>>>>
>>>>> I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion
>>>>> ( see close to bottom of page) https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>>>>> wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:Peace_Hyde_Mara_Mentor.jpg
>>>>> explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are nominated for deletion.
>>>>>
>>>>> An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000
>>>>> views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds that
>>>>> make no sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>>> Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance
>>>>> whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them
>>>>> without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines do
>>>>> those deletions instead of humans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these
>>>>> weird activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather
>>>>> bots and machines are taking over?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in flames here!
>>>>>
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@Rexford
And I just noticed Rocky Dawuni has also now been deleted. What's happening...
-Masssly
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> </div><div>Date:04/03/2015 20:12 (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org> </div><div>Cc: Wikimedia-gh <Wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-GH] [African Wikimedians] Some IP deleting uploads and articles </div><div>
</div>And those elephants, instead of spending time chasing the not so good articles and high level crappy images on Wikipedia, they rather go on easy prey and articles relating to celebs not well known, of course because persons like myself are toothless and won't have anything to do.
Something I always envisioned happening as long as the whole of Africa has no Wikipedia admin to turn around decisions like these.
You know, its hard to think Africanish, if you weren't born as one.
Those elephants are interested in the unnecessaries and instead take fun in deleting articles with so much potential
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:08 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly... I believe this was one of the elephants we were trying to tackle at Wiki indaba right?
On Mar 4, 2015 9:57 PM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:
How Wikipedia rolls? How does it? Deleting legitimate articles and images because someone at the other end dont know the true origin and considers every celeb image on Wikipedia to be copyright?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 19:55 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is that one of your policies too !!!
I used to be in flames and be super furious but after I realized how we roll I just chilled. So unfortunately this is how we roll don't worry just chill and keep on editing, the machines will decide if your edits are worthy to be part of sum of all human knowledge.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:
There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own policies.
One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by someone or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't contest for its undeletion. Never!
I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion ( see close to bottom of page) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:Peace_Hyde… explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
They are nominated for deletion.
An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000 views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds that make no sense.
"Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
Just saying.
Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines do those deletions instead of humans.
Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these weird activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather bots and machines are taking over?
I'm in flames here!
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Hi,
Any OpenStreetMap contributor here? I guess you might be interested in
State of the Map US (SoTM US).
Best
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In relation to this issue, I've had a similar issue when the logo of University of Professional Studies was removed after over 10 months it was used as an image. I do my part in helping to contribute to this cause. If this continues, I'm gonna fire them myself. I used to think it was just me, now it happens to a brother from another mother (Nkansah Rexford).
Machines or not, they got to make considerations and stop messing up with well meaning Wikimedians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gramalow#Speedy_deletion_nomination…
@bobby the issue of copyright on images can be very stretchy I most times
don't fight about.
Photographer who took the celeb's picture. A funny scenario can be this:
I'm a celeb, at an occasion, I realized I looked awesome so I asked someone
I dont know to use my phone take a quick shot of me.
I wanna put the image on Commons so I go look for that stranger and put his
name on. Come on.
A similar instance is with these celebs. Some are photoshoots where the
studio or photographer can be tracked. In many similar instances, it
follows the scenario above. So who's the copyright owner?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:34 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the links Ian, I'm however still confused about the thousands
> of pictures used in Wikipedia from Flickr !! Do you know anything about
> that ??
>
> Felix expect a follow up email from Theresa ( she'll be in contact with
> all the user groups as well) to find out how far they are with the
> recommendations/proporsals/decisions taken from the indaba.
> On 04.03.2015 21:15, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
>
>> Sorry Emmanuel, I didnt do English at school extensively, could you
>> please rephrase this statement?
>>
>> "But, as a
>> reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
>> "photograph", not the subject who is photographed."
>>
>
> You have written on Yann's talk page
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yann#copyright_whatever
>
> "Those images were explicitly emailed to me from the celebs.", a sentence
> which sounds like an argument proving that this is OK for you to put them
> online on commons.wikimedia.org.
>
> But, in a normal case, the celebrity does not have any right on these
> pictures. The photograph who has shot the picture owns the copyright, not
> the celebrity.
>
> Emmanuel
>
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Hello Emanuel. I get your point now. Makes sense. Okay
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:21 Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org> wrote:
> On 04.03.2015 21:15, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
> > Sorry Emmanuel, I didnt do English at school extensively, could you
> > please rephrase this statement?
> >
> > "But, as a
> > reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
> > "photograph", not the subject who is photographed."
>
> You have written on Yann's talk page
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yann#copyright_whatever
>
> "Those images were explicitly emailed to me from the celebs.", a
> sentence which sounds like an argument proving that this is OK for you
> to put them online on commons.wikimedia.org.
>
> But, in a normal case, the celebrity does not have any right on these
> pictures. The photograph who has shot the picture owns the copyright,
> not the celebrity.
>
> Emmanuel
>
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Sorry Emmanuel, I didnt do English at school extensively, could you please
rephrase this statement?
"But, as a
reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
"photograph", not the subject who is photographed."
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:12 Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org> wrote:
> Dear Rexford
>
> On 04.03.2015 20:23, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
> > There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own
> > policies.
> >
> > One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by
> > someone or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't
> > contest for its undeletion. Never!
>
> OK, that's up to you but you can not complain then that people don't
> listen to your point of view.
>
> > I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion (
> > see close to bottom of page)
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:
> .jpg
> > explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
> >
> > They are nominated for deletion.
> >
> > An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000
> > views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds
> > that make no sense.
> >
> > "Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
> >
> > Just saying.
> >
> > Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance
> > whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them
> > without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines
> > do those deletions instead of humans.
> >
> > Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these weird
> > activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather
> > bots and machines are taking over?
>
> They were asked to be deleted by a real user: Yann, who is a more than
> 10 years old Wikimedian. If a few of the inserts on your talk page are
> made by an IP, it's probably a computer error, Yann is behind this.
>
> > I'm in flames here!
>
> I understand, but the solution is to talk to him. You have done it two
> hours ago and you will get an answer in the next days. But, as a
> reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
> "photograph", not the subject who is photographed.
>
> Emmanuel
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