@bobby the issue of copyright on images can be very stretchy I most times
don't fight about.
Photographer who took the celeb's picture. A funny scenario can be this:
I'm a celeb, at an occasion, I realized I looked awesome so I asked someone
I dont know to use my phone take a quick shot of me.
I wanna put the image on Commons so I go look for that stranger and put his
name on. Come on.
A similar instance is with these celebs. Some are photoshoots where the
studio or photographer can be tracked. In many similar instances, it
follows the scenario above. So who's the copyright owner?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:34 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the links Ian, I'm however still confused about the thousands
> of pictures used in Wikipedia from Flickr !! Do you know anything about
> that ??
>
> Felix expect a follow up email from Theresa ( she'll be in contact with
> all the user groups as well) to find out how far they are with the
> recommendations/proporsals/decisions taken from the indaba.
> On 04.03.2015 21:15, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
>
>> Sorry Emmanuel, I didnt do English at school extensively, could you
>> please rephrase this statement?
>>
>> "But, as a
>> reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
>> "photograph", not the subject who is photographed."
>>
>
> You have written on Yann's talk page
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yann#copyright_whatever
>
> "Those images were explicitly emailed to me from the celebs.", a sentence
> which sounds like an argument proving that this is OK for you to put them
> online on commons.wikimedia.org.
>
> But, in a normal case, the celebrity does not have any right on these
> pictures. The photograph who has shot the picture owns the copyright, not
> the celebrity.
>
> Emmanuel
>
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Hello Emanuel. I get your point now. Makes sense. Okay
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:21 Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org> wrote:
> On 04.03.2015 21:15, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
> > Sorry Emmanuel, I didnt do English at school extensively, could you
> > please rephrase this statement?
> >
> > "But, as a
> > reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
> > "photograph", not the subject who is photographed."
>
> You have written on Yann's talk page
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yann#copyright_whatever
>
> "Those images were explicitly emailed to me from the celebs.", a
> sentence which sounds like an argument proving that this is OK for you
> to put them online on commons.wikimedia.org.
>
> But, in a normal case, the celebrity does not have any right on these
> pictures. The photograph who has shot the picture owns the copyright,
> not the celebrity.
>
> Emmanuel
>
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Sorry Emmanuel, I didnt do English at school extensively, could you please
rephrase this statement?
"But, as a
reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
"photograph", not the subject who is photographed."
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:12 Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org> wrote:
> Dear Rexford
>
> On 04.03.2015 20:23, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
> > There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own
> > policies.
> >
> > One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by
> > someone or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't
> > contest for its undeletion. Never!
>
> OK, that's up to you but you can not complain then that people don't
> listen to your point of view.
>
> > I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion (
> > see close to bottom of page)
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:
> .jpg
> > explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
> >
> > They are nominated for deletion.
> >
> > An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000
> > views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds
> > that make no sense.
> >
> > "Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
> >
> > Just saying.
> >
> > Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance
> > whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them
> > without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines
> > do those deletions instead of humans.
> >
> > Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these weird
> > activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather
> > bots and machines are taking over?
>
> They were asked to be deleted by a real user: Yann, who is a more than
> 10 years old Wikimedian. If a few of the inserts on your talk page are
> made by an IP, it's probably a computer error, Yann is behind this.
>
> > I'm in flames here!
>
> I understand, but the solution is to talk to him. You have done it two
> hours ago and you will get an answer in the next days. But, as a
> reminder: the owner of the copyright of a photography is the
> "photograph", not the subject who is photographed.
>
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And those elephants, instead of spending time chasing the not so good
articles and high level crappy images on Wikipedia, they rather go on easy
prey and articles relating to celebs not well known, of course because
persons like myself are toothless and won't have anything to do.
Something I always envisioned happening as long as the whole of Africa has
no Wikipedia admin to turn around decisions like these.
You know, its hard to think Africanish, if you weren't born as one.
Those elephants are interested in the unnecessaries and instead take fun in
deleting articles with so much potential
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:08 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly... I believe this was one of the elephants we were trying to
> tackle at Wiki indaba right?
> On Mar 4, 2015 9:57 PM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How Wikipedia rolls? How does it? Deleting legitimate articles and images
>> because someone at the other end dont know the true origin and considers
>> every celeb image on Wikipedia to be copyright?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 19:55 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is that one of your policies too !!!
>>>
>>> I used to be in flames and be super furious but after I realized how we
>>> roll I just chilled. So unfortunately this is how we roll don't worry just
>>> chill and keep on editing, the machines will decide if your edits are
>>> worthy to be part of sum of all human knowledge.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Nkansah Rexford <
>>> nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own
>>>> policies.
>>>>
>>>> One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by
>>>> someone or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't
>>>> contest for its undeletion. Never!
>>>>
>>>> I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion (
>>>> see close to bottom of page)
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:Peace_Hyde…
>>>> explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
>>>>
>>>> They are nominated for deletion.
>>>>
>>>> An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000
>>>> views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds that
>>>> make no sense.
>>>>
>>>> "Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
>>>>
>>>> Just saying.
>>>>
>>>> Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance
>>>> whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them
>>>> without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines do
>>>> those deletions instead of humans.
>>>>
>>>> Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these
>>>> weird activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather
>>>> bots and machines are taking over?
>>>>
>>>> I'm in flames here!
>>>>
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There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own
policies.
One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by someone
or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't contest for
its undeletion. Never!
I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion ( see
close to bottom of page)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:Peace_Hyde…
explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
They are nominated for deletion.
An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000
views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds that
make no sense.
"Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
Just saying.
Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance
whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them
without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines do
those deletions instead of humans.
Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these weird
activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather bots
and machines are taking over?
I'm in flames here!
How Wikipedia rolls? How does it? Deleting legitimate articles and images
because someone at the other end dont know the true origin and considers
every celeb image on Wikipedia to be copyright?
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 19:55 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Is that one of your policies too !!!
>
> I used to be in flames and be super furious but after I realized how we
> roll I just chilled. So unfortunately this is how we roll don't worry just
> chill and keep on editing, the machines will decide if your edits are
> worthy to be part of sum of all human knowledge.
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own
>> policies.
>>
>> One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by
>> someone or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't
>> contest for its undeletion. Never!
>>
>> I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion (
>> see close to bottom of page)
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:Peace_Hyde…
>> explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
>>
>> They are nominated for deletion.
>>
>> An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000
>> views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds that
>> make no sense.
>>
>> "Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
>>
>> Just saying.
>>
>> Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance
>> whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them
>> without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines do
>> those deletions instead of humans.
>>
>> Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these weird
>> activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather bots
>> and machines are taking over?
>>
>> I'm in flames here!
>>
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