Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
That is great ! I hope you will manage to have a team, in order to make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hello Benoît,
Lists for Luxembourg already exist. See: http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjet_National_Monumenter
Today I asked a user if he could also put those lists on nl-wiki too.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:07 PM That is great ! I hope you will manage to have a team, in order to make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are
working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on
the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the
German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our
competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hi Romaine :) I'll pitch in, cu on IRC
Tot ziens! Siri / noorse
On 20 July 2011 23:15, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Benoît,
Lists for Luxembourg already exist. See: http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjet_National_Monumenter
Today I asked a user if he could also put those lists on nl-wiki too.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and
Luxemburg
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:07 PM That is great ! I hope you will manage to have a team, in order to make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are
working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on
the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the
German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our
competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Romaine, That is very good news! Can you tell me the name of a monument in Luxembourg, the sign used on the monument mark (usually some version of the blue&white Hague Convention marker like the Netherlands rijksmonument), and the name of the governing body responsible for protection and organizing the European Heritage Days? If they have a website I can get it off there with google translate.
Also, can you ask someone to check my work on [[National Heritage Site (Belgium)]]? The link is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Heritage_Site_(Belgium)
Thanks in advance and good luck! Jane
2011/7/21 Siri J noorse.wikipedia@gmail.com
Hi Romaine :) I'll pitch in, cu on IRC
Tot ziens! Siri / noorse
On 20 July 2011 23:15, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Benoît,
Lists for Luxembourg already exist. See: http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjet_National_Monumenter
Today I asked a user if he could also put those lists on nl-wiki too.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and
Luxemburg
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:07 PM That is great ! I hope you will manage to have a team, in order to make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are
working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on
the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the
German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our
competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hi Jane / Romaine, I've had a quick look and mainly corrected some typos / commented out the IW's as they link an article about Flanders with one tackling all of Belgium. Please note that the names of the other two organisations are missing from the part "three heritage organisations" - I'll try to look into it today, unless someone with the knowledge at hand beats me to it ;)
BR Siri/noorse
On 21 July 2011 08:32, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Romaine, That is very good news! Can you tell me the name of a monument in Luxembourg, the sign used on the monument mark (usually some version of the blue&white Hague Convention marker like the Netherlands rijksmonument), and the name of the governing body responsible for protection and organizing the European Heritage Days? If they have a website I can get it off there with google translate.
Also, can you ask someone to check my work on [[National Heritage Site (Belgium)]]? The link is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Heritage_Site_(Belgium)
Thanks in advance and good luck! Jane
2011/7/21 Siri J noorse.wikipedia@gmail.com
Hi Romaine :) I'll pitch in, cu on IRC
Tot ziens! Siri / noorse
On 20 July 2011 23:15, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Benoît,
Lists for Luxembourg already exist. See: http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjet_National_Monumenter
Today I asked a user if he could also put those lists on nl-wiki too.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and
Luxemburg
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:07 PM That is great ! I hope you will manage to have a team, in order to make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are
working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on
the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the
German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our
competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Hello Jane,
They name it National Monumenter, National Monuments, but I am not sure about the spelling. In French: monuments nationaux
I do not know about the sign. If I see one, I will mail you.
The "Commission des Sites et Monuments Nationaux" (COSIMO) is the commission who deals with monuments. "Le Service des sites et monuments nationaux" seems to be the organization in Luxembourg, see: http://www.ssmn.public.lu/restauration/patrimoine_protege/commission-sites-m... and see http://www.ssmn.public.lu/
I haven't seen them organizing the European Heritage Days, but as you are searching you perhaps will find about it.
I will ask users to check your article and translate it in Dutch as well.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Thu, 7/21/11, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 6:32 AM
Romaine,That is very good news! Can you tell me the name of a monument in Luxembourg, the sign used on the monument mark (usually some version of the blue&white Hague Convention marker like the Netherlands rijksmonument), and the name of the governing body responsible for protection and organizing the European Heritage Days? If they have a website I can get it off there with google translate.
Also, can you ask someone to check my work on [[National Heritage Site (Belgium)]]? The link is here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Heritage_Site_(Belgium)
Thanks in advance and good luck!Jane
2011/7/21 Siri J noorse.wikipedia@gmail.com
Hi Romaine :) I'll pitch in, cu on IRC
Tot ziens! Siri / noorse
On 20 July 2011 23:15, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello Benoît,
Lists for Luxembourg already exist.
See: http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjet_National_Monumenter
Today I asked a user if he could also put those lists on nl-wiki too.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:07 PM
That is great ! I hope you will
manage to have a team, in order to
make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are
working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in
Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we
have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to
help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on
the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves
Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki
are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as
they are with little people, they do not think they can
organize their own competition themselves. However, they do
have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki.
So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will
cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the
map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition
in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the
German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our
competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated!
Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
--
Benoît Evellin
Membre de Wikimédia France
www.wikimedia.fr
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
_______________________________________________
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WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________
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http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello Benoît,
Lists for Luxembourg already exist. See: http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjet_National_Monumenter
Today I asked a user if he could also put those lists on nl-wiki too.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:07 PM That is great ! I hope you will manage to have a team, in order to make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are
working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on
the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the
German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with our
competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Benoît, That would be wonderful, and if you have any more info on the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions in the fr wiki, let me know and I will translate those in the en wiki also. I am also missing a wiki page on the organization for protection of French monuments, and the organization of the European Heritage Days in France seems to have a problem with their website: http://www.journeesdupatrimoine.culture.fr If you have any info on them that I could use in a wiki page, that would be great! Jane
2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
Jane,
About the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions, I don't know if there is something. Belgian guys may have some information about it, I'll ask them.
For the French part, there is already a page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_historique. I'll try to add more information about the history but I have few of time. The page in French is pretty complete : if you translate it, it will be easier for me to correct it.
For the European Heritage Days in France, I think the website will come. It was online before summer, with the old version. If you need any more information about France, please ask me.
Benoît
2011/7/21 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com:
Benoît, That would be wonderful, and if you have any more info on the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions in the fr wiki, let me know and I will translate those in the en wiki also. I am also missing a wiki page on the organization for protection of French monuments, and the organization of the European Heritage Days in France seems to have a problem with their website: http://www.journeesdupatrimoine.culture.fr If you have any info on them that I could use in a wiki page, that would be great! Jane 2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Just to be sure: everybody is aware of wlm-be@lists.wmnederland.nl ? That is a list dedicated to organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium (and Luxembourg?).
Romaine, does this require further discussion (for example, with other WLM-be volunteers), or should I consider this as definite?
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Jane,
About the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions, I don't know if there is something. Belgian guys may have some information about it, I'll ask them.
For the French part, there is already a page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_historique. I'll try to add more information about the history but I have few of time. The page in French is pretty complete : if you translate it, it will be easier for me to correct it.
For the European Heritage Days in France, I think the website will come. It was online before summer, with the old version. If you need any more information about France, please ask me.
Benoît
2011/7/21 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com:
Benoît, That would be wonderful, and if you have any more info on the Brussels
and
Wallonian heritage institutions in the fr wiki, let me know and I will translate those in the en wiki also. I am also missing a wiki page on the organization for protection of
French
monuments, and the organization of the European Heritage Days in France seems to have a problem with their website: http://www.journeesdupatrimoine.culture.fr If you have any info on them that I could use in a wiki page, that would
be
great! Jane 2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr
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First report for Austria:
The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of monuments).
Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt)
A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria.
This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration is intended to be permanent.
Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day and International Heritage Photographic Experience.)
The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 objects of all listed properties in Austria.
Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring them up to date automatically to a great extent.
The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached.
1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September.
2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in October 2011 to March 2012)
The Heritage Day
The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield because of the photo.
International Heritage Photographic Experience
The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg.
The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons.
Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the closing for upload images for the previous content.
All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part of Wikimedia Commons.
Other projects
MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the Federal Monuments Office.
"The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation for cultural products can grow. "
- Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm
Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012.
Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists themselves.
What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons?
All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument.
Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.
Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main panel) for all contests, listen above.
Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia)
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting cooperation!
However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is with the Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about it, but just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in Austria also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on national level?
Thanks,
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert hubert.laska@gmx.at
First report for Austria:
The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of monuments).
Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt)
A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria.
This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration is intended to be permanent.
Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day and International Heritage Photographic Experience.)
The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 objects of all listed properties in Austria.
Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring them up to date automatically to a great extent.
The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached.
- The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day,
which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September.
- IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in
October 2011 to March 2012)
The Heritage Day
The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield because of the photo.
International Heritage Photographic Experience
The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg.
The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons.
Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the closing for upload images for the previous content.
All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part of Wikimedia Commons.
Other projects
MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the Federal Monuments Office.
"The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation for cultural products can grow. "
- Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm
Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012.
Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists themselves.
What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons?
All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument.
Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.
Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main panel) for all contests, listen above.
Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia)
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk:
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting cooperation!
However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is with the Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about it, but just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in Austria also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on national level?
Hi Lodewijk,
WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in other countries) WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria.
The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians in Austria, this everything around will have no significance.
We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also be performed directly from the the monument lists, directly from the object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo with the individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking further.
The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. We will finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it as one starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the related Community-articles and related Articles.
These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office also serve Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of the Austrian education system.
For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. But very impressive in its very special momentum.
Hubertl
Thanks,
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
First report for Austria: The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of monuments). Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration is intended to be permanent. Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 objects of all listed properties in Austria. Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring them up to date automatically to a great extent. The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached. 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in October 2011 to March 2012) The Heritage Day The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield because of the photo. International Heritage Photographic Experience The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the closing for upload images for the previous content. All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part of Wikimedia Commons. Other projects MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the Federal Monuments Office. "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation for cultural products can grow. " - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012. Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists themselves. What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main panel) for all contests, listen above. Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for the clarification. I did not mean to suggest the bigger picture was less important, it definitely is worth going after! It sounds great what you are all doing, I have so little to add to it. It is only that I wanted to be sure about a few things because it is relevant for European coordination, hence :)
Uploading directly linked from the monument lists sounds like walhalla!
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert hubert.laska@gmx.at
Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk:
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting cooperation!
However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is with the Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about it, but just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in Austria also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on national level?
Hi Lodewijk,
WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in other countries) WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria.
The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians in Austria, this everything around will have no significance.
We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also be performed directly from the the monument lists, directly from the object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo with the individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking further.
The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. We will finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it as one starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the related Community-articles and related Articles.
These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office also serve Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of the Austrian education system.
For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. But very impressive in its very special momentum.
Hubertl
Thanks,
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
First report for Austria: The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a
larger
scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of monuments). Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the
collaboration
is intended to be permanent. Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the
Federal
Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage
Day
and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 objects of all listed properties in Austria. Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This
allows
Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria
to
create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to
bring
them up to date automatically to a great extent. The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement
reached.
1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning
in
October 2011 to March 2012) The Heritage Day The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage
of
the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield because of the photo. International Heritage Photographic Experience The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is
generally
dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the
14
Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000
monuments
which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then
be
assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event,
with
each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into
a
common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end
of
each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start
of
the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the closing for upload images for the previous content. All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part of Wikimedia Commons. Other projects MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the Federal Monuments Office. "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore
and
experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the
center
of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration
of
our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and
appreciation
for cultural products can grow. " - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is
so
called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's schools and communities to discover and to motivate people
documenting
their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring
Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists themselves. What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All
the
pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This
is
determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs
that
are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of
Wikimedia
Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only -
in
order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other
institutions
in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be
guided
to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main panel) for all contests, listen above. Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Am 21.07.2011 14:49, schrieb Lodewijk:
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for the clarification. I did not mean to suggest the bigger picture was less important, it definitely is worth going after! It sounds great what you are all doing, I have so little to add to it. It is only that I wanted to be sure about a few things because it is relevant for European coordination, hence :)
dear Lodewijk,
for me, an european coordination is essential. but not just for WLM, even for any other picture-Contest ever happen, or happen in an european public context. We want all pictures, which are made in such competitions in future. :-)
Uploading directly linked from the monument lists sounds like walhalla!
Look here, there is a small table (it is just a testsituation since yesterday!!), where you can see three icons below "Standort":
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw/Test/2
with one Click, (commons-icon) you can upload your photo (if you have an account), If you don´t have an account, then you will first be prompted to create one.
All informations which belong to this property will be transfered with a link to commons, including the spatial data, Name of the Objekt, adress, and additionally an object ID. So, the uploading is extremely simple. Just select the foto, an send it. Thats all. We are even thinking about to handover the short description of this objekt (if there is an description).
Because there are already a lot of articles to individual objects, it is conceivable that even in articles to objects, we can makes a direct link to upload pictures. Fixed with similar specifications, so that it is extremlely easy for new User to take part.
During this process, all pictures from this property will also be correctly categorized inside commons (should be), so we can separate it easily for the contest itself.
Later then, there will be a link inside the tables to see all/more pictures of this particular object in Commons. (like: Object in Commons) Just with one Click. Like this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Palais_Pallavicini?uselang=de
This is our plan for this Year. Next year maybe it is possible to participate to WLM2012 directly from OSM, because we would like to transfer all our 36.000 Objekts to OpenStreeMap. Maybe even to GoogleMaps and BingMaps.
In all cases, partipicants will come first to our lists (or articles), then to the upload-form.
Next Year! Or the following two :-)
regards
Hubertl
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk: > Hi Hubert, > > thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting cooperation! > > However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is with the > Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about it, but > just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in Austria > also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury > delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on > national level? Hi Lodewijk, WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in other countries) WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria. The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians in Austria, this everything around will have no significance. We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also be performed directly from the the monument lists, directly from the object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo with the individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking further. The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. We will finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it as one starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the related Community-articles and related Articles. These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office also serve Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of the Austrian education system. For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. But very impressive in its very special momentum. Hubertl > > Thanks, > > Lodewijk > > 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>> > > First report for Austria: > > The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their > own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in > Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, > but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger > scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 > austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of > monuments). > > Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) > > A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a > far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. > > This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration > is intended to be permanent. > > Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal > Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day > and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) > > The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of > Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 > objects of all listed properties in Austria. > > Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows > Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to > create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring > them up to date automatically to a great extent. > > The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached. > > 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, > which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. > > 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in > October 2011 to March 2012) > > The Heritage Day > > The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of > the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place > this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event > itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last > Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be > the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are > usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield > because of the photo. > > > International Heritage Photographic Experience > > The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of > Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the > Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally > dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th > competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia > (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 > Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. > > The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments > which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be > assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective > objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. > > Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with > each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as > well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a > common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of > each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the > Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of > the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the > closing for upload images for the previous content. > > All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part > of Wikimedia Commons. > > Other projects > > MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the > Federal Monuments Office. > > "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the > areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and > experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center > of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of > our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and > adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom > and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation > for cultural products can grow. " > > - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm > > Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so > called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's > schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting > their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012. > > Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly > related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists > themselves. > > What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? > > All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all > events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the > pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of > Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is > determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and > implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that > are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia > Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. > > Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in > order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The > Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions > in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided > to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. > > Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main > panel) for all contests, listen above. > > Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hubert, congratulations for having this test scenario. It might work as a fallback.
However, it's planned to be a special upload form for us (WLM), because the original form is just "too noisy", I mean, the user doesn't want to know about {{Information}} - and most important, it should not be able to accidentally change that information.
Thus, the link shall be extremely simplified in the meantime; it would be somewhat near of having to pass only an ID (I'm assuming the upload wizard has access to the monuments DB).
I like the idea of having links from the articles as well. At WMP we spent some time crossing the list with the article links and commons category, so we should know exactly which articles really exist (for the objects on the list). This way we could run through all and put a simple template just to say "Upload photos for this article and win prizes!", something like that (this is obviously an exaggeration).
Having the link in the table seems possible as well, at least for those who compiled the lists with a template, as recommended.
Great work Hubert!
2011/7/21 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Hubert, congratulations for having this test scenario. It might work as a fallback.
However, it's planned to be a special upload form for us (WLM), because the original form is just "too noisy", I mean, the user doesn't want to know about {{Information}} - and most important, it should not be able to accidentally change that information.
Thus, the link shall be extremely simplified in the meantime; it would be somewhat near of having to pass only an ID (I'm assuming the upload wizard has access to the monuments DB).
As I understand it (but I'm not technical, so for details and contradictions I refer to our tech wizards ;-) ) it would not be easy to let the wizard have access to the database too. However, if we can include the identifier only, then it would already be possible to afterwards go through the uploads with a bot and make all the other changes based on the database! (basically the same, but with a slight delay)
I like the idea of having links from the articles as well. At WMP we spent some time crossing the list with the article links and commons category, so we should know exactly which articles really exist (for the objects on the list). This way we could run through all and put a simple template just to say "Upload photos for this article and win prizes!", something like that (this is obviously an exaggeration).
Having the link in the table seems possible as well, at least for those who compiled the lists with a template, as recommended.
Great work Hubert!
-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.
Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
Hubert escreveu:
Am 21.07.2011 14:49, schrieb Lodewijk:
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for the clarification. I did not mean to suggest the bigger picture was less important, it definitely is worth going after! It sounds great what you are all doing, I have so little to add to it. It is only that I wanted to be sure about a few things because it is relevant for European coordination, hence :)
dear Lodewijk,
for me, an european coordination is essential. but not just for WLM, even for any other picture-Contest ever happen, or happen in an european public context. We want all pictures, which are made in such competitions in future. :-)
Uploading directly linked from the monument lists sounds like walhalla!
Look here, there is a small table (it is just a testsituation since yesterday!!), where you can see three icons below "Standort":
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw/Test/2
with one Click, (commons-icon) you can upload your photo (if you have an account), If you don´t have an account, then you will first be prompted to create one.
All informations which belong to this property will be transfered with a link to commons, including the spatial data, Name of the Objekt, adress, and additionally an object ID. So, the uploading is extremely simple. Just select the foto, an send it. Thats all. We are even thinking about to handover the short description of this objekt (if there is an description).
Because there are already a lot of articles to individual objects, it is conceivable that even in articles to objects, we can makes a direct link to upload pictures. Fixed with similar specifications, so that it is extremlely easy for new User to take part.
During this process, all pictures from this property will also be correctly categorized inside commons (should be), so we can separate it easily for the contest itself.
Later then, there will be a link inside the tables to see all/more pictures of this particular object in Commons. (like: Object in Commons) Just with one Click. Like this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Palais_Pallavicini?uselang=de
This is our plan for this Year. Next year maybe it is possible to participate to WLM2012 directly from OSM, because we would like to transfer all our 36.000 Objekts to OpenStreeMap. Maybe even to GoogleMaps and BingMaps.
In all cases, partipicants will come first to our lists (or articles), then to the upload-form.
Next Year! Or the following two :-)
regards
Hubertl
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk: > Hi Hubert, > > thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting
cooperation!
> > However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is with the > Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about it, but > just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in
Austria
> also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury > delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on > national level? Hi Lodewijk, WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in other
countries)
WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria. The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians in
Austria,
this everything around will have no significance. We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also be
performed
directly from the the monument lists, directly from the object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo with
the
individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking further. The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. We
will
finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it as
one
starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the related Community-articles and related Articles. These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office also
serve
Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of the Austrian education system. For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. But
very
impressive in its very special momentum. Hubertl > > Thanks, > > Lodewijk > > 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at
<mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>> > > First report for Austria: > > The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their > own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage
in
> Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, > but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger > scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to
100
> austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of > monuments). > > Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office
(Bundesdenkmalamt)
> > A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a > far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. > > This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration > is intended to be permanent. > > Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal > Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day > and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) > > The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of > Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36
000
> objects of all listed properties in Austria. > > Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows > Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to > create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring > them up to date automatically to a great extent. > > The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached. > > 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, > which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. > > 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in > October 2011 to March 2012) > > The Heritage Day > > The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of > the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place > this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event > itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the
last
> Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be > the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which
are
> usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield > because of the photo. > > > International Heritage Photographic Experience > > The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of > Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the > Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally > dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th > competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia > (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 > Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. > > The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments > which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be > assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the
respective
> objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. > > Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with > each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as > well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a > common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of > each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the > Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of > the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the > closing for upload images for the previous content. > > All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part > of Wikimedia Commons. > > Other projects > > MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of
the
> Federal Monuments Office. > > "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the > areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and > experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center > of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of > our cultural heritage in the living environment of children
and
> adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom > and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation > for cultural products can grow. " > > - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm > > Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so > called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's > schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting > their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012. > > Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly > related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists > themselves. > > What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? > > All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all > events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the > pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part
of
> Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is > determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and > implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that > are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia > Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. > > Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in > order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The > Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions > in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided > to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. > > Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main > panel) for all contests, listen above. > > Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Lodewijk,
Lodewijk escreveu:
As I understand it (but I'm not technical, so for details and contradictions I refer to our tech wizards ;-) ) it would not be easy to let the wizard have access to the database too. However, if we can include the identifier only, then it would already be possible to afterwards go through the uploads with a bot and make all the other changes based on the database! (basically the same, but with a slight delay)
I really hope there is some kind of access to the monuments database, otherwise everything will seem to be a bit "blind"... for instance, the template {{IGESPAR}} at commons will accept an ID and a classification (which is available throught the DB).
Even if access to DB is not direct, it could be done with dynamic (AJAX-style) queries to the toolserver (I believe) so the form would be automatically filled anyway. This is especially relevant if someone will upload *from* Commons and not from the monuments lists...
But I can antecipate some difficulties, yes... I'm sure Maarten will negotiate the best possible.
-NT
I like the idea of having links from the articles as well. At WMP we spent some time crossing the list with the article links and commons category, so we should know exactly which articles really exist (for the objects on the list). This way we could run through all and put a simple template just to say "Upload photos for this article and win prizes!", something like that (this is obviously an exaggeration). Having the link in the table seems possible as well, at least for those who compiled the lists with a template, as recommended. Great work Hubert! -- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt Hubert escreveu: > > Am 21.07.2011 14:49, schrieb Lodewijk: >> Hi Hubert, >> >> thanks a lot for the clarification. I did not mean to suggest the bigger >> picture was less important, it definitely is worth going after! It >> sounds great what you are all doing, I have so little to add to it. It >> is only that I wanted to be sure about a few things because it is >> relevant for European coordination, hence :) >> > > dear Lodewijk, > > for me, an european coordination is essential. but not just for WLM, > even for any other picture-Contest ever happen, or happen in an european > public context. We want all pictures, which are made in such > competitions in future. :-) > > >> Uploading directly linked from the monument lists sounds like walhalla! >> > Look here, there is a small table (it is just a testsituation since > yesterday!!), where you can see three icons below "Standort": > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw/Test/2 > > with one Click, (commons-icon) you can upload your photo (if you have an > account), If you don´t have an account, then you will first be prompted > to create one. > > All informations which belong to this property will be transfered with a > link to commons, including the spatial data, Name of the Objekt, adress, > and additionally an object ID. So, the uploading is extremely simple. > Just select the foto, an send it. Thats all. We are even thinking about > to handover the short description of this objekt (if there is an > description). > > Because there are already a lot of articles to individual objects, it is > conceivable that even in articles to objects, we can makes a direct link > to upload pictures. Fixed with similar specifications, so that it is > extremlely easy for new User to take part. > > During this process, all pictures from this property will also be > correctly categorized inside commons (should be), so we can separate it > easily for the contest itself. > > Later then, there will be a link inside the tables to see all/more > pictures of this particular object in Commons. (like: Object in Commons) > Just with one Click. Like this: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Palais_Pallavicini?uselang=de > > This is our plan for this Year. Next year maybe it is possible to > participate to WLM2012 directly from OSM, because we would like to > transfer all our 36.000 Objekts to OpenStreeMap. Maybe even to > GoogleMaps and BingMaps. > > In all cases, partipicants will come first to our lists (or articles), > then to the upload-form. > > Next Year! Or the following two :-) > > regards > > Hubertl > >> Lodewijk >> >> 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>> >> >> >> >> Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk: >> > Hi Hubert, >> > >> > thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting cooperation! >> > >> > However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is >> with the >> > Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about >> it, but >> > just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in Austria >> > also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury >> > delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on >> > national level? >> >> Hi Lodewijk, >> >> WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next >> months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in other countries) >> WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria. >> >> The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and >> responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians in Austria, >> this everything around will have no significance. >> >> >> We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also be performed >> directly from the the monument lists, directly from the >> object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo with the >> individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go >> directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking >> further. >> >> The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. We will >> finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it as one >> starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the related >> Community-articles and related Articles. >> >> These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office also serve >> Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of the >> Austrian education system. >> >> For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. But very >> impressive in its very special momentum. >> >> Hubertl >> >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Lodewijk >> > >> > 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>> >> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>>> >> > >> > First report for Austria: >> > >> > The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously >> with their >> > own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in >> > Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in >> December 2009, >> > but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year >> on a larger >> > scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 >> > austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of >> > monuments). >> > >> > Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) >> > >> > A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought >> about a >> > far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of >> Austria. >> > >> > This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the >> collaboration >> > is intended to be permanent. >> > >> > Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of >> the Federal >> > Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National >> Heritage Day >> > and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) >> > >> > The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list >> team of >> > Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 >> > objects of all listed properties in Austria. >> > >> > Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. >> This allows >> > Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in >> Austria to >> > create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term >> to bring >> > them up to date automatically to a great extent. >> > >> > The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement >> reached. >> > >> > 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the >> day, >> > which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. >> > >> > 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. >> (Beginning in >> > October 2011 to March 2012) >> > >> > The Heritage Day >> > >> > The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the >> patronage of >> > the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will >> take place >> > this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The >> event >> > itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last >> > Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria >> will be >> > the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are >> > usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should >> also yield >> > because of the photo. >> > >> > >> > International Heritage Photographic Experience >> > >> > The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the >> Council of >> > Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years >> by the >> > Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is >> generally >> > dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th >> > competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia >> > (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) >> shows the 14 >> > Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. >> > >> > The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 >> monuments >> > which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which >> can then be >> > assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective >> > objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. >> > >> > Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this >> event, with >> > each country organizes the competition on their own and >> perform - as >> > well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then >> opens into a >> > common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At >> the end of >> > each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 >> at the >> > Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the >> start of >> > the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 >> is the >> > closing for upload images for the previous content. >> > >> > All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria >> are part >> > of Wikimedia Commons. >> > >> > Other projects >> > >> > MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the >> > Federal Monuments Office. >> > >> > "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students >> know the >> > areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to >> explore and >> > experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in >> the center >> > of the monument are a place of learning and exploration >> exploration of >> > our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and >> > adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative >> freedom >> > and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and >> appreciation >> > for cultural products can grow. " >> > >> > - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm >> > >> > Another project - currently standing in the development phase >> - is so >> > called "monument in the village" This action helds place in >> Austria's >> > schools and communities to discover and to motivate people >> documenting >> > their own cultural environment and is expected to start in >> spring 2012. >> > >> > Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is >> directly >> > related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the >> monuments lists >> > themselves. >> > >> > What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? >> > >> > All taken pictures which have been taken through the years >> during all >> > events are on some hard drives and are not used for public >> use. All the >> > pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of >> > Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. >> This is >> > determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this >> idea and >> > implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all >> photographs that >> > are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of >> Wikimedia >> > Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. >> > >> > Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not >> only - in >> > order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage >> values. The >> > Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other >> institutions >> > in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will >> be guided >> > to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. >> > >> > Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / >> ev. Main >> > panel) for all contests, listen above. >> > >> > Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>>> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
as I understood it (usual disclaimers apply) the problem would be that the form would be much slower and breaking-sensitive if it would have to contact the database etc - besides being more complicated to make. I would also love it and would like to see it happen of course, but I guess it is more important to first ensure it actually works - which is also a tough job to get done in time apparently :)
Best,
Lodewijk (who considers creating a wish list for next year!)
2011/7/21 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Lodewijk,
Lodewijk escreveu:
As I understand it (but I'm not technical, so for details and contradictions I refer to our tech wizards ;-) ) it would not be easy to let the wizard have access to the database too. However, if we can include the identifier only, then it would already be possible to afterwards go through the uploads with a bot and make all the other changes based on the database! (basically the same, but with a slight
delay)
I really hope there is some kind of access to the monuments database, otherwise everything will seem to be a bit "blind"... for instance, the template {{IGESPAR}} at commons will accept an ID and a classification (which is available throught the DB).
Even if access to DB is not direct, it could be done with dynamic (AJAX-style) queries to the toolserver (I believe) so the form would be automatically filled anyway. This is especially relevant if someone will upload *from* Commons and not from the monuments lists...
But I can antecipate some difficulties, yes... I'm sure Maarten will negotiate the best possible.
-NT
I like the idea of having links from the articles as well. At WMP we spent some time crossing the list with the article links and commons category, so we should know exactly which articles really exist (for
the
objects on the list). This way we could run through all and put a
simple
template just to say "Upload photos for this article and win
prizes!",
something like that (this is obviously an exaggeration). Having the link in the table seems possible as well, at least for
those
who compiled the lists with a template, as recommended. Great work Hubert! -- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer. Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt Hubert escreveu: > > Am 21.07.2011 14:49, schrieb Lodewijk: >> Hi Hubert, >> >> thanks a lot for the clarification. I did not mean to suggest the bigger >> picture was less important, it definitely is worth going after! It >> sounds great what you are all doing, I have so little to add to it. It >> is only that I wanted to be sure about a few things because it is >> relevant for European coordination, hence :) >> > > dear Lodewijk, > > for me, an european coordination is essential. but not just for
WLM,
> even for any other picture-Contest ever happen, or happen in an european > public context. We want all pictures, which are made in such > competitions in future. :-) > > >> Uploading directly linked from the monument lists sounds like walhalla! >> > Look here, there is a small table (it is just a testsituation since > yesterday!!), where you can see three icons below "Standort": > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw/Test/2 > > with one Click, (commons-icon) you can upload your photo (if you have an > account), If you don´t have an account, then you will first be prompted > to create one. > > All informations which belong to this property will be transfered with a > link to commons, including the spatial data, Name of the Objekt, adress, > and additionally an object ID. So, the uploading is extremely
simple.
> Just select the foto, an send it. Thats all. We are even thinking about > to handover the short description of this objekt (if there is an > description). > > Because there are already a lot of articles to individual objects, it is > conceivable that even in articles to objects, we can makes a direct link > to upload pictures. Fixed with similar specifications, so that it
is
> extremlely easy for new User to take part. > > During this process, all pictures from this property will also be > correctly categorized inside commons (should be), so we can separate it > easily for the contest itself. > > Later then, there will be a link inside the tables to see all/more > pictures of this particular object in Commons. (like: Object in Commons) > Just with one Click. Like this: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Palais_Pallavicini?uselang=de > > This is our plan for this Year. Next year maybe it is possible to > participate to WLM2012 directly from OSM, because we would like to > transfer all our 36.000 Objekts to OpenStreeMap. Maybe even to > GoogleMaps and BingMaps. > > In all cases, partipicants will come first to our lists (or
articles),
> then to the upload-form. > > Next Year! Or the following two :-) > > regards > > Hubertl > >> Lodewijk >> >> 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>> >> >> >> >> Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk: >> > Hi Hubert, >> > >> > thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting cooperation! >> > >> > However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap
is
>> with the >> > Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear
about
>> it, but >> > just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in Austria >> > also be throughout the whole month September, also have a
jury
>> > delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on >> > national level? >> >> Hi Lodewijk, >> >> WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next >> months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in other countries) >> WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria. >> >> The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and >> responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians in Austria, >> this everything around will have no significance. >> >> >> We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also be performed >> directly from the the monument lists, directly from the >> object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo with the >> individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go >> directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking >> further. >> >> The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. We will >> finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it as one >> starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the
related
>> Community-articles and related Articles. >> >> These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office also serve >> Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of
the
>> Austrian education system. >> >> For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. But very >> impressive in its very special momentum. >> >> Hubertl >> >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Lodewijk >> > >> > 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>> >> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>>> >> > >> > First report for Austria: >> > >> > The project Wiki Loves monument takes place
simultaneously
>> with their >> > own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in >> > Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in >> December 2009, >> > but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year >> on a larger >> > scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 >> > austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of >> > monuments). >> > >> > Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) >> > >> > A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have
brought
>> about a >> > far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of >> Austria. >> > >> > This cooperation involves several steps, the period of
the
>> collaboration >> > is intended to be permanent. >> > >> > Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner
of
>> the Federal >> > Monuments Office for at first two photo contests
(National
>> Heritage Day >> > and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) >> > >> > The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list >> team of >> > Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 >> > objects of all listed properties in Austria. >> > >> > Especially with regard to the annual update of all
content.
>> This allows >> > Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in >> Austria to >> > create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term >> to bring >> > them up to date automatically to a great extent. >> > >> > The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement >> reached. >> > >> > 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the >> day, >> > which takes place annually on the last Sunday in
September.
>> > >> > 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic
Experience.
>> (Beginning in >> > October 2011 to March 2012) >> > >> > The Heritage Day >> > >> > The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under
the
>> patronage of >> > the Council of Europe and the European Commission and
will
>> take place >> > this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The >> event >> > itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last >> > Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria >> will be >> > the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are >> > usually not publicly accessible. More important, we
should
>> also yield >> > because of the photo. >> > >> > >> > International Heritage Photographic Experience >> > >> > The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the >> Council of >> > Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years >> by the >> > Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is >> generally >> > dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the
16th
>> > competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia >> > (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de
Catalunya)
>> shows the 14 >> > Competition and pictures of the final event in
Strasbourg.
>> > >> > The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 >> monuments >> > which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments,
which
>> can then be >> > assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective >> > objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia
Commons.
>> > >> > Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in
this
>> event, with >> > each country organizes the competition on their own and >> perform - as >> > well as the selection of the winning photos -, which
then
>> opens into a >> > common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona.
At
>> the end of >> > each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 >> at the >> > Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the >> start of >> > the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 >> is the >> > closing for upload images for the previous content. >> > >> > All photos, which are made in these competitions in
Austria
>> are part >> > of Wikimedia Commons. >> > >> > Other projects >> > >> > MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the >> > Federal Monuments Office. >> > >> > "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students >> know the >> > areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation,
to
>> explore and >> > experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in >> the center >> > of the monument are a place of learning and exploration >> exploration of >> > our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and >> > adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative >> freedom >> > and develops a variety of talents, so that perception
and
>> appreciation >> > for cultural products can grow. " >> > >> > - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm >> > >> > Another project - currently standing in the development phase >> - is so >> > called "monument in the village" This action helds place
in
>> Austria's >> > schools and communities to discover and to motivate
people
>> documenting >> > their own cultural environment and is expected to start
in
>> spring 2012. >> > >> > Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it
is
>> directly >> > related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the >> monuments lists >> > themselves. >> > >> > What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? >> > >> > All taken pictures which have been taken through the
years
>> during all >> > events are on some hard drives and are not used for
public
>> use. All the >> > pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of >> > Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. >> This is >> > determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this >> idea and >> > implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all >> photographs that >> > are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of >> Wikimedia >> > Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. >> > >> > Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not >> only - in >> > order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage >> values. The >> > Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and
other
>> institutions >> > in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will >> be guided >> > to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. >> > >> > Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / >> ev. Main >> > panel) for all contests, listen above. >> > >> > Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>>> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> >
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
>> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Am 21.07.2011 18:45, schrieb Nuno Tavares:
Hubert, congratulations for having this test scenario. It might work as a fallback.
However, it's planned to be a special upload form for us (WLM), because the original form is just "too noisy", I mean, the user doesn't want to know about {{Information}} - and most important, it should not be able to accidentally change that information.
hi Nuno,
I have heard from this special upload-form. But I´am - from nature and by my experiences - very skeptical to everything wich is called: promise me :-)
Thus, the link shall be extremely simplified in the meantime; it would be somewhat near of having to pass only an ID (I'm assuming the upload wizard has access to the monuments DB).
I think, an ID alone is not the problem, we need something which avoids a lot of work. Our work. But if we can put the database on the server, it will be able to differenc with an Countrycode between the different databases - but sometime the same IDs.
I like the idea of having links from the articles as well. At WMP we spent some time crossing the list with the article links and commons category, so we should know exactly which articles really exist (for the objects on the list). This way we could run through all and put a simple template just to say "Upload photos for this article and win prizes!", something like that (this is obviously an exaggeration).
This idea is as young as my last mail. But it is logical to do something like this. Not just from the appropriate artikles, even from all the community-artikles, practically from every related artikle, which relates in any way to an cultural monument.
We can realize this with categories and banners.
Having the link in the table seems possible as well, at least for those who compiled the lists with a template, as recommended.
we did it. inbetween the next three days, we will update all our tables by bot, hopefully with an error-ration less than 1%
Great work Hubert!
Thank You, Nuno, it is not my work alone, - really not! - , in my opinion, we just work perfectly together. Furtunately, we are many! Its like doing something important with very good friends! And many of us are knowing each other for many years now!
Hubertl
It would be great to have a deep link to the new upload form with two parameters: country and id. This way it would be easy to add an upload link to the lists templates and everybody will be using the same upload form with its facilities.
Vicenç
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:45:35 +0100 From: nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First Report Austria
Hubert, congratulations for having this test scenario. It might work as a fallback.
However, it's planned to be a special upload form for us (WLM), because the original form is just "too noisy", I mean, the user doesn't want to know about {{Information}} - and most important, it should not be able to accidentally change that information.
Thus, the link shall be extremely simplified in the meantime; it would be somewhat near of having to pass only an ID (I'm assuming the upload wizard has access to the monuments DB).
I like the idea of having links from the articles as well. At WMP we spent some time crossing the list with the article links and commons category, so we should know exactly which articles really exist (for the objects on the list). This way we could run through all and put a simple template just to say "Upload photos for this article and win prizes!", something like that (this is obviously an exaggeration).
Having the link in the table seems possible as well, at least for those who compiled the lists with a template, as recommended.
Great work Hubert!
-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.
Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
Hubert escreveu:
Am 21.07.2011 14:49, schrieb Lodewijk:
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for the clarification. I did not mean to suggest the bigger picture was less important, it definitely is worth going after! It sounds great what you are all doing, I have so little to add to it. It is only that I wanted to be sure about a few things because it is relevant for European coordination, hence :)
dear Lodewijk,
for me, an european coordination is essential. but not just for WLM, even for any other picture-Contest ever happen, or happen in an european public context. We want all pictures, which are made in such competitions in future. :-)
Uploading directly linked from the monument lists sounds like walhalla!
Look here, there is a small table (it is just a testsituation since yesterday!!), where you can see three icons below "Standort":
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw/Test/2
with one Click, (commons-icon) you can upload your photo (if you have an account), If you don´t have an account, then you will first be prompted to create one.
All informations which belong to this property will be transfered with a link to commons, including the spatial data, Name of the Objekt, adress, and additionally an object ID. So, the uploading is extremely simple. Just select the foto, an send it. Thats all. We are even thinking about to handover the short description of this objekt (if there is an description).
Because there are already a lot of articles to individual objects, it is conceivable that even in articles to objects, we can makes a direct link to upload pictures. Fixed with similar specifications, so that it is extremlely easy for new User to take part.
During this process, all pictures from this property will also be correctly categorized inside commons (should be), so we can separate it easily for the contest itself.
Later then, there will be a link inside the tables to see all/more pictures of this particular object in Commons. (like: Object in Commons) Just with one Click. Like this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Palais_Pallavicini?uselang=de
This is our plan for this Year. Next year maybe it is possible to participate to WLM2012 directly from OSM, because we would like to transfer all our 36.000 Objekts to OpenStreeMap. Maybe even to GoogleMaps and BingMaps.
In all cases, partipicants will come first to our lists (or articles), then to the upload-form.
Next Year! Or the following two :-)
regards
Hubertl
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk: > Hi Hubert, > > thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an exciting cooperation! > > However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is with the > Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about it, but > just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest in Austria > also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury > delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on > national level? Hi Lodewijk, WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in other countries) WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria. The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians in Austria, this everything around will have no significance. We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also be performed directly from the the monument lists, directly from the object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo with the individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking further. The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. We will finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it as one starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the related Community-articles and related Articles. These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office also serve Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of the Austrian education system. For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. But very impressive in its very special momentum. Hubertl > > Thanks, > > Lodewijk > > 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>> > > First report for Austria: > > The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their > own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in > Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, > but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger > scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 > austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of > monuments). > > Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) > > A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a > far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. > > This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration > is intended to be permanent. > > Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal > Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day > and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) > > The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of > Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 > objects of all listed properties in Austria. > > Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows > Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to > create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring > them up to date automatically to a great extent. > > The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached. > > 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, > which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. > > 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in > October 2011 to March 2012) > > The Heritage Day > > The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of > the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place > this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event > itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last > Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be > the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are > usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield > because of the photo. > > > International Heritage Photographic Experience > > The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of > Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the > Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally > dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th > competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia > (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 > Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. > > The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments > which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be > assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective > objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. > > Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with > each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as > well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a > common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of > each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the > Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of > the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the > closing for upload images for the previous content. > > All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part > of Wikimedia Commons. > > Other projects > > MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the > Federal Monuments Office. > > "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the > areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and > experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center > of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of > our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and > adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom > and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation > for cultural products can grow. " > > - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm > > Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so > called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's > schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting > their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012. > > Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly > related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists > themselves. > > What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? > > All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all > events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the > pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of > Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is > determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and > implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that > are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia > Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. > > Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in > order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The > Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions > in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided > to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. > > Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main > panel) for all contests, listen above. > > Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Hubert, That is great news! Congratulations. I am working on getting as much information into the English wikipedia as possible on all of the relevant parties concerned. Can you please check this page for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesdenkmalamt
Is the Dehio project based on the original inventory work of Georg Dehio? Where can I find info about that project (maybe it's already on-wiki, just point me to the article) Thanks! Jane
2011/7/21 Hubert hubert.laska@gmx.at
First report for Austria:
The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of monuments).
Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt)
A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria.
This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration is intended to be permanent.
Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day and International Heritage Photographic Experience.)
The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 objects of all listed properties in Austria.
Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring them up to date automatically to a great extent.
The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached.
- The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day,
which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September.
- IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in
October 2011 to March 2012)
The Heritage Day
The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield because of the photo.
International Heritage Photographic Experience
The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg.
The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons.
Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the closing for upload images for the previous content.
All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part of Wikimedia Commons.
Other projects
MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the Federal Monuments Office.
"The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation for cultural products can grow. "
- Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm
Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012.
Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists themselves.
What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons?
All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument.
Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.
Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main panel) for all contests, listen above.
Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia)
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Am 21.07.2011 15:23, schrieb Jane Darnell:
Hubert, That is great news! Congratulations. I am working on getting as much information into the English wikipedia as possible on all of the relevant parties concerned. Can you please check this page for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesdenkmalamt
Is the Dehio project based on the original inventory work of Georg Dehio? Where can I find info about that project (maybe it's already on-wiki, just point me to the article) Thanks! Jane
The said Dehio-Projekt was an internal wikiprojekt, look here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Denkmalpflege/%C3%96sterr...
there you can find a complete list of all Dehios ever publischt. Also the art topographies.
todays work on Dehio - publisher is the Bundesdenkmalamt - is based on Dehio (and also named), but has still a lack of money, so, Upper Austria is not completely covered yet.
the actual work on the Lists of national heritage monuments is here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Denkmalpflege/%C3%96sterr...
And, the english artikle to Bundesdenkmalamt ist pretty good, I did´nt even know, that there is an existing translation. Shame on me.
Hubertl.
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
First report for Austria: The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of monuments). Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration is intended to be permanent. Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 objects of all listed properties in Austria. Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring them up to date automatically to a great extent. The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached. 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in October 2011 to March 2012) The Heritage Day The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield because of the photo. International Heritage Photographic Experience The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the closing for upload images for the previous content. All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part of Wikimedia Commons. Other projects MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the Federal Monuments Office. "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation for cultural products can grow. " - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012. Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists themselves. What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main panel) for all contests, listen above. Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hubert, I wrote another article for Austria, this time it's Denkmalgeschütztes Objekt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denkmalgesch%C3%BCtztes_Objekt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denkmalgesch%C3%BCtztes_Objekt I have some trouble with the diacritics in my browser, but I believe it is spelled correctly. Can you check it for me? I tried to translate the table and I may have messed up your sorting options. Also, do you have any photo's or logo for the list itself - maybe an old page of a Dehio book opened to the page on a specific Denkmal?
I am also somewhat surprised that there is no companion article in the German wikipedia for this, since it is such a crucial concept for WLM. In order to talk about these things in a way to ask people to photograph them, we need to first explain what they are, don't we?
Jane
2011/7/21 Hubert hubert.laska@gmx.at
Am 21.07.2011 15:23, schrieb Jane Darnell:
Hubert, That is great news! Congratulations. I am working on getting as much information into the English wikipedia as possible on all of the relevant parties concerned. Can you please check this page for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesdenkmalamt
Is the Dehio project based on the original inventory work of Georg Dehio? Where can I find info about that project (maybe it's already on-wiki, just point me to the article) Thanks! Jane
The said Dehio-Projekt was an internal wikiprojekt, look here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Denkmalpflege/%C3%96sterr...
there you can find a complete list of all Dehios ever publischt. Also the art topographies.
todays work on Dehio - publisher is the Bundesdenkmalamt - is based on Dehio (and also named), but has still a lack of money, so, Upper Austria is not completely covered yet.
the actual work on the Lists of national heritage monuments is here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Denkmalpflege/%C3%96sterr...
And, the english artikle to Bundesdenkmalamt ist pretty good, I did´nt even know, that there is an existing translation. Shame on me.
Hubertl.
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
First report for Austria: The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a
larger
scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of monuments). Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the
collaboration
is intended to be permanent. Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the
Federal
Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage
Day
and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 objects of all listed properties in Austria. Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This
allows
Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria
to
create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to
bring
them up to date automatically to a great extent. The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement
reached.
1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning
in
October 2011 to March 2012) The Heritage Day The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage
of
the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield because of the photo. International Heritage Photographic Experience The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is
generally
dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the
14
Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000
monuments
which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then
be
assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event,
with
each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into
a
common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end
of
each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start
of
the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the closing for upload images for the previous content. All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part of Wikimedia Commons. Other projects MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the Federal Monuments Office. "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore
and
experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the
center
of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration
of
our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and
appreciation
for cultural products can grow. " - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is
so
called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's schools and communities to discover and to motivate people
documenting
their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring
Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists themselves. What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All
the
pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This
is
determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs
that
are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of
Wikimedia
Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only -
in
order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other
institutions
in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be
guided
to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main panel) for all contests, listen above. Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Dear Jane, I've noticed that you created the article "Denkmalgeschütztes Objekt" which is content part of de:WP:Denkmalschutz.
Well, after reading the German article, I've found that the de: WP article is in need of revision and therefore I contacted the Austrian Federal Heritage Office and asked for help so that we can represent this part actually correct. Then I can and will take care of your article.
Thanks for the initial start-up!
lg H.
Am 31.07.2011 16:50, schrieb Jane Darnell:
Hubert, I wrote another article for Austria, this time it's Denkmalgeschütztes Objekt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denkmalgesch%C3%BCtztes_Objekt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denkmalgesch%C3%BCtztes_Objekt I have some trouble with the diacritics in my browser, but I believe it is spelled correctly. Can you check it for me? I tried to translate the table and I may have messed up your sorting options. Also, do you have any photo's or logo for the list itself - maybe an old page of a Dehio book opened to the page on a specific Denkmal?
I am also somewhat surprised that there is no companion article in the German wikipedia for this, since it is such a crucial concept for WLM. In order to talk about these things in a way to ask people to photograph them, we need to first explain what they are, don't we?
Jane
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
Am 21.07.2011 15:23, schrieb Jane Darnell: > Hubert, > That is great news! Congratulations. I am working on getting as much > information into the English wikipedia as possible on all of the > relevant parties concerned. Can you please check this page for me? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesdenkmalamt > > Is the Dehio project based on the original inventory work of Georg > Dehio? Where can I find info about that project (maybe it's already > on-wiki, just point me to the article) > Thanks! > Jane The said Dehio-Projekt was an internal wikiprojekt, look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Denkmalpflege/%C3%96sterreich/Projekt_Dehio there you can find a complete list of all Dehios ever publischt. Also the art topographies. todays work on Dehio - publisher is the Bundesdenkmalamt - is based on Dehio (and also named), but has still a lack of money, so, Upper Austria is not completely covered yet. the actual work on the Lists of national heritage monuments is here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Denkmalpflege/%C3%96sterreich And, the english artikle to Bundesdenkmalamt ist pretty good, I didŽnt even know, that there is an existing translation. Shame on me. Hubertl. > > 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at> <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>> > > First report for Austria: > > The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their > own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritage in > Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, > but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger > scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to 100 > austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of > monuments). > > Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office (Bundesdenkmalamt) > > A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a > far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. > > This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration > is intended to be permanent. > > Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal > Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day > and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) > > The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of > Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36 000 > objects of all listed properties in Austria. > > Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows > Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to > create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring > them up to date automatically to a great extent. > > The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached. > > 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, > which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. > > 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in > October 2011 to March 2012) > > The Heritage Day > > The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of > the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place > this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event > itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on the last > Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be > the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, which are > usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield > because of the photo. > > > International Heritage Photographic Experience > > The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of > Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the > Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally > dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th > competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia > (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 > Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. > > The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments > which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be > assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to the respective > objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. > > Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with > each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as > well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a > common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of > each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the > Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of > the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the > closing for upload images for the previous content. > > All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part > of Wikimedia Commons. > > Other projects > > MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program of the > Federal Monuments Office. > > "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the > areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and > experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center > of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of > our cultural heritage in the living environment of children and > adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom > and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation > for cultural products can grow. " > > - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm > > Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so > called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's > schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting > their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012. > > Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly > related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists > themselves. > > What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? > > All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all > events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the > pictures from this events for the next few years, will be part of > Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is > determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and > implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that > are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia > Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. > > Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in > order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The > Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions > in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided > to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. > > Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main > panel) for all contests, listen above. > > Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Hello Lodewijk,
Url for the Belgian mailing list: http://lists.wmnederland.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wlm-be
The biggest need would be later on that someone/some users will make this competition known to the media in Luxembourg. We have spoken the possibility of letting Luxembourg be part of the Belgium WLM and only got positive reactions. Also on lb-wiki it is said that they would like to join / be part of another country's WLM competition. I wrote a message to them, but received no reply yet. I will write to some users personally to ask if they want to help out. With all the respect I wish they will reply, but as they expressed earlier and concerning the positive reactions of core organizing users of WLM Belgium, I think we should consider that Luxembourg will be part of the contest organized in Belgium.
Our current activities are: - Organizing prices - Organizing jury - Creating website - Preparing lists, especially those for Wallonie on nl-wiki, and on fr-wiki?
We also think about the media attention we would like to accomplish. This has to be done in Flanders in Dutch. In Brussels in Dutch and French to local papers/media. In Wallonie in French and considering the German speaking parts of Belgium in German too. And in Luxembourg in German and French. My German and French are too worse to write a professional message for the media, I hope other users can help us out with getting messages send to the media in Dutch, French and German in both countries?
The projectpage on nl-wiki for WLM be is: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Erfgoed/Belgische_Erfgoed...
Greetings - Romaine
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From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 9:56 AM
Just to be sure: everybody is aware of wlm-be@lists.wmnederland.nl ? That is a list dedicated to organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium (and Luxembourg?).
Romaine, does this require further discussion (for example, with other WLM-be volunteers), or should I consider this as definite? Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Jane,
About the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions, I don't know
if there is something. Belgian guys may have some information about
it, I'll ask them.
For the French part, there is already a page :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_historique. I'll try to add more
information about the history but I have few of time. The page in
French is pretty complete : if you translate it, it will be easier for
me to correct it.
For the European Heritage Days in France, I think the website will
come. It was online before summer, with the old version. If you need
any more information about France, please ask me.
Benoît
2011/7/21 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com:
Benoît,
That would be wonderful, and if you have any more info on the Brussels and
Wallonian heritage institutions in the fr wiki, let me know and I will
translate those in the en wiki also.
I am also missing a wiki page on the organization for protection of French
monuments, and the organization of the European Heritage Days in France
seems to have a problem with their website:
If you have any info on them that I could use in a wiki page, that would be
great!
Jane
2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
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Dear Romaine,
I would love to contact the German speaking authorities and media of Eastern Belgium, and I already considered it earlier. But then I hesitated because I could not name a local person to carry on with. Wouldn't it be strange for the East Belgian media if we would organize a photo competition and there is no person in their own area?
Kind regards Ziko
2011/7/21 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com
Hello Lodewijk,
Url for the Belgian mailing list: http://lists.wmnederland.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wlm-be
The biggest need would be later on that someone/some users will make this competition known to the media in Luxembourg. We have spoken the possibility of letting Luxembourg be part of the Belgium WLM and only got positive reactions. Also on lb-wiki it is said that they would like to join / be part of another country's WLM competition. I wrote a message to them, but received no reply yet. I will write to some users personally to ask if they want to help out. With all the respect I wish they will reply, but as they expressed earlier and concerning the positive reactions of core organizing users of WLM Belgium, I think we should consider that Luxembourg will be part of the contest organized in Belgium.
Our current activities are:
- Organizing prices
- Organizing jury
- Creating website
- Preparing lists, especially those for Wallonie on nl-wiki, and on
fr-wiki?
We also think about the media attention we would like to accomplish. This has to be done in Flanders in Dutch. In Brussels in Dutch and French to local papers/media. In Wallonie in French and considering the German speaking parts of Belgium in German too. And in Luxembourg in German and French. My German and French are too worse to write a professional message for the media, I hope other users can help us out with getting messages send to the media in Dutch, French and German in both countries?
The projectpage on nl-wiki for WLM be is: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Erfgoed/Belgische_Erfgoed...
Greetings - Romaine
--- On *Thu, 7/21/11, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org* wrote:
From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 9:56 AM
Just to be sure: everybody is aware of wlm-be@lists.wmnederland.nlhttp://mc/compose?to=wlm-be@lists.wmnederland.nl? That is a list dedicated to organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium (and Luxembourg?).
Romaine, does this require further discussion (for example, with other WLM-be volunteers), or should I consider this as definite?
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin <benoit.evellin@wikimedia.frhttp://mc/compose?to=benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Jane,
About the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions, I don't know if there is something. Belgian guys may have some information about it, I'll ask them.
For the French part, there is already a page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_historique. I'll try to add more information about the history but I have few of time. The page in French is pretty complete : if you translate it, it will be easier for me to correct it.
For the European Heritage Days in France, I think the website will come. It was online before summer, with the old version. If you need any more information about France, please ask me.
Benoît
2011/7/21 Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jane023@gmail.com
: Benoît, That would be wonderful, and if you have any more info on the Brussels
and
Wallonian heritage institutions in the fr wiki, let me know and I will translate those in the en wiki also. I am also missing a wiki page on the organization for protection of
French
monuments, and the organization of the European Heritage Days in France seems to have a problem with their website: http://www.journeesdupatrimoine.culture.fr If you have any info on them that I could use in a wiki page, that would
be
great! Jane 2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin <benoit.evellin@wikimedia.frhttp://mc/compose?to=benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
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Maybe you could contact the local European Heritage Days? http://sector.openmonumenten.be/
2011/7/22 Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@googlemail.com
Dear Romaine,
I would love to contact the German speaking authorities and media of Eastern Belgium, and I already considered it earlier. But then I hesitated because I could not name a local person to carry on with. Wouldn't it be strange for the East Belgian media if we would organize a photo competition and there is no person in their own area?
Kind regards Ziko
2011/7/21 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com
Hello Lodewijk,
Url for the Belgian mailing list: http://lists.wmnederland.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wlm-be
The biggest need would be later on that someone/some users will make this competition known to the media in Luxembourg. We have spoken the possibility of letting Luxembourg be part of the Belgium WLM and only got positive reactions. Also on lb-wiki it is said that they would like to join / be part of another country's WLM competition. I wrote a message to them, but received no reply yet. I will write to some users personally to ask if they want to help out. With all the respect I wish they will reply, but as they expressed earlier and concerning the positive reactions of core organizing users of WLM Belgium, I think we should consider that Luxembourg will be part of the contest organized in Belgium.
Our current activities are:
- Organizing prices
- Organizing jury
- Creating website
- Preparing lists, especially those for Wallonie on nl-wiki, and on
fr-wiki?
We also think about the media attention we would like to accomplish. This has to be done in Flanders in Dutch. In Brussels in Dutch and French to local papers/media. In Wallonie in French and considering the German speaking parts of Belgium in German too. And in Luxembourg in German and French. My German and French are too worse to write a professional message for the media, I hope other users can help us out with getting messages send to the media in Dutch, French and German in both countries?
The projectpage on nl-wiki for WLM be is: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Erfgoed/Belgische_Erfgoed...
Greetings - Romaine
--- On *Thu, 7/21/11, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org* wrote:
From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 9:56 AM
Just to be sure: everybody is aware of wlm-be@lists.wmnederland.nlhttp://mc/compose?to=wlm-be@lists.wmnederland.nl? That is a list dedicated to organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium (and Luxembourg?).
Romaine, does this require further discussion (for example, with other WLM-be volunteers), or should I consider this as definite?
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin <benoit.evellin@wikimedia.frhttp://mc/compose?to=benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Jane,
About the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions, I don't know if there is something. Belgian guys may have some information about it, I'll ask them.
For the French part, there is already a page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_historique. I'll try to add more information about the history but I have few of time. The page in French is pretty complete : if you translate it, it will be easier for me to correct it.
For the European Heritage Days in France, I think the website will come. It was online before summer, with the old version. If you need any more information about France, please ask me.
Benoît
2011/7/21 Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jane023@gmail.com
: Benoît, That would be wonderful, and if you have any more info on the Brussels
and
Wallonian heritage institutions in the fr wiki, let me know and I will translate those in the en wiki also. I am also missing a wiki page on the organization for protection of
French
monuments, and the organization of the European Heritage Days in France seems to have a problem with their website: http://www.journeesdupatrimoine.culture.fr If you have any info on them that I could use in a wiki page, that would
be
great! Jane 2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin <benoit.evellin@wikimedia.frhttp://mc/compose?to=benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
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-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr
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Ben
Thanks, but I am looking for the information to make two more pages in the english wiki;
1) one for the organization for protection of French monuments (Monument Historique is the protected object, or [[National Heritage Site (France)]]). It should be something like the German [[Denkmalschutz]], or Dutch [Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed]]). Here are some short examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Information_Centre_for_Cultural_Heritage_... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_Council http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrimoni_Cultural
2) one for the organization that is responsible for the European Heritage days. The website may be offline, but I assume the organization has its own website, whatever that is!
Thanks, Jane
2011/7/21 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
Jane,
About the Brussels and Wallonian heritage institutions, I don't know if there is something. Belgian guys may have some information about it, I'll ask them.
For the French part, there is already a page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_historique. I'll try to add more information about the history but I have few of time. The page in French is pretty complete : if you translate it, it will be easier for me to correct it.
For the European Heritage Days in France, I think the website will come. It was online before summer, with the old version. If you need any more information about France, please ask me.
Benoît
Hello Benoît,
Great to hear!
Perhaps you can translate as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Heritage_Site_%28Belgium%29 in French?
How is it with the monumentlists on fr-wiki, especially for Belgium, have all lists been created yet? I noticed some weeks ago a discussion on fr-wiki about the lists, after a user from nl-wiki had been working on the lists on fr-wiki, is there yet a conclusion?
Another question, is on fr-wiki yet a central message given in what users are asked to participate in organizing Wiki Loves Monuments, creating list, and especially helping out with WLM Belgium? If it is possible, it would be great if someone wants to do that so that more users are known with the organization and the wish for more help.
Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Thu, 7/21/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:39 AM Great !
I'll try to put it on fr-wp too.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello Benoît,
Lists for Luxembourg already exist. See: http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjet_National_Monumenter
Today I asked a user if he could also put those lists
on nl-wiki too.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr
wrote:
From: Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves
Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition"
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:07 PM That is great ! I hope you will manage to have a team, in order to make the lists of monuments for Luxembourg.
Benoît
2011/7/20 Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com:
Hello all,
At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki
are
working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments
in
Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the
moment, we
have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia
Netherlands to
help us out with the prices for the competition.
Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still
missing on
the map of countries who participate in joining
Wiki Loves
Monuments. The impression we got is that users
from lb-wiki
are interested, but as they have no chapter as
well and as
they are with little people, they do not think
they can
organize their own competition themselves.
However, they do
have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already
on lb-wiki.
So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments
Belgium will
cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the
hole in the
map can be filled in. That will give a combined
competition
in Belgium and Luxemburg together.
Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover
the
German-speaking parts of Belgium.
If there are people wanting to help us with
our
competition, please let us know, help is much
appreciated!
Thanks!
Greetings - Romaine
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