I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of
monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include
coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would
useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got
different approaches in my mind, for example:
1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even
though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google
2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program,
add the different locations. You can see an example at
this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and,
depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read.
Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year,
in the Netherlands, or have other ideas.
Thanks a lot,
have encountered an unexpected problem with monuments of Minorca (http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_de_Menorca). There are about 1,000 monuments,
most of them of Talayotic culture (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talaiotic_Cultura), possibly with an unclear
demarcation between the categories of monument and archaeological area, two of
the categories defined for Bien de Interés Cultural (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bien_de_Inter% C3% A9s_Cultural). We have contacted with the person
in charge of heritage in the island council asking for help to identify them
and locate them as the online register only contains the name and little else. His answer is that we must limit
to 65 monuments that are accessible to the public. The reason is that most are on
private lands and they want to avoid spolation. He recognizes out of the record
that most are not monuments. I think they probably lack of protection and I
know the islanders are very sensitive that tourists do not invade private
As a Wikipedian I can not accept
it. The register of monuments is
public information, monuments are protected by law, we can not redefine if a
monument should be in the arqueological area category and we can not limit the
information based on problems or interests of the administration. But from WLM viewpoint, probably
it is not appropiate causing problems and perhaps it makes nonsense to suggest participants
to go to inaccessible places to take photos of ruins or caves or to suggest them
monuments that we can not correctly identify. Moroever, the amount of 65 would be within the Spanish average.
I am confused with this. Any suggestions?
we are planning (still to be confirmed) a Hackathon in Berlin in May and
are thinking about bringing the technically challenged and unchallenged
monument-lovers together. We could either have WLM as a parallel
slot/main topic during the dev meeting or meet a day before.
Besides the technical issues we will, of course, also discuss all other
important topics and use this as an official kick-off meeting. Therefore
it is important that people can all participate from multiple countries
If you are interested in joining the event, please provide some input
about your preferred dates here:
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I am GoEThe, from Wikimedia Portugal. Together with Beria and others, I am
helping to organize things for wikilovesmonuments in Portugal. I used to
live in Leiden, Holland, during my PhD, but now I live in Denmark.
I am currently reading through the project pages on Commons, my next step
will be to organize the templates and tables. Will the bot run through all
participating wikipedias, or do we have to develop it locally?
Building up a global Monuments Database with datasets of any country available.
Some information like geodata, location, year of construction, picture, official key, source information might be universal and are needed only once for every monument. Other information like the description of the monument should be kept in different languages.
For any Wikipedia language a template with placeholders is created. A script can fill the templates with information from the Monuments Database.
As the number of monuments is not static and we continously find out better information or take new photos, a web interface allows to change the datasets with new information. A bot can update regularly (once a week) the monument lists in all Wikipedias.
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just as a reminder: if you are seriously thinking about participating
Wiki Loves Monuments, I would like to suggest you register the
wikilovesmonuments.xx domain. You don't necessarily have to use that
to put your website, but at the very least redirect it to your page on
Wikimedia Commons or your local wiki. That way nobody else can steal
and abuse it, or you can decide later to use it after all.
If you want to run a website there (for example, a blog) I understand
that Wikimedia Polska is willing to help you out with their
So... then register it soon!
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