WikiLovesMonuments August 2012

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Problems with ukrainian uploader
by Андрій Бондаренко 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Dear friends, Please could you please explain me what is wrong. While polish<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaig…>or russian<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaig…>upload pages seems to be correct, Ukrainian<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaig…>seems to be non-existent. Is the link http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaig… -- Regards, Andrij

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Swedish WLM site is hacked....
by Tamara Petrovic 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

http://wikilovesmonuments.se/in-english/ I clicked on it to see some info and this is what I found....Please fix!

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WLM in Israel twitters
by Barbara Fischer 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Hello, here is the out of the tweet of WM Israel. Is that the first press mention of Wiki Loves monuments!! Please share your press mentions with us and document it here<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Press_m…>. By the way, we should update it to 2012 and mention in the content all participating countries. Anybody with some spare time ;)? The article in Hebrew: http://www.israelhayom.co.il/site/newsletter_article.php?id=20588 Thanks Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [WikimediaMobile] A few WLM app questions
by Philip Chang 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

Erik, thanks for the great feedback. Further to Jon's comments: 1) Brion, any idea if and why Cordova uses .jpeg instead of .jpg? Unique name - originally we were going to include username and date/hr/min (no seconds) - would that be acceptable? Derrick Coatzee commented in the bug Jon referenced and roughly he is saying similar things to you. I believe it is more work to assign a unique number and we are rapidly running out of time, with plenty of work still to do. 2) The first point about including the icon in the monument detail screen is a great one and possibly could be considered. The second point is something we should do, and a similar existing story for the map view may not make it, but I will create a story for this particular enhancement. 3) A story exists for this and will likely be fixed. 4) Ori is more than welcome to help! This is a good thought and we are trying to get just basic tracking, but if something can be done easily we should go for it. Phil On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Erik - my comments are inline! > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> [Cross-posting to WLM mailing list] >> >> Hi Phil & mobile team, >> >> a few questions/comments from playing with the WLM app. >> >> 1) Filenames of uploaded files >> >> Right now files appear to follow the following pattern: >> >> [Name of monument] (taken on [timestamp in DDMMMYYYY >> HHhrsMMminsSSsecs]).jpeg >> >> First question: Is there a reason we're using ".jpeg" instead of the >> more common ".jpg" extension? >> > > This is a good question and I'm not sure why this is happening. It's > potentially a default of the Cordova library we use. Someone more informed > might be able to shed light on this. > >> > > Second question: What are the motivations for the full timestamp in >> the pattern? Is it primarily uniqueness? If so I would suggest >> (re-)considering other approaches to achieve uniqueness (e.g. >> obtaining a unique suffix like 001, 002). This pattern seems pretty >> verbose; I do see some files with date-stamps in the name on Commons >> (and it's encouraged per >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_naming ), but very few >> that have the full timestamp. >> > > This is primarily about trying to get a good balance between uniqueness > and being human readable. There was a confusing ticket about this - > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38285 which I closed today > due to the fact it wasn't actionable - I welcome ( > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38285#c8) suggestions on > how we could improve the names. > > >> * The red place-marks vs. gray place-marks iconography - are we >> explaining this anywhere in the UI? I was ultimately able to infer it, >> but it might be nice to have this explained e.g. by having the icon >> repeated in the detail view with a "Existing image" or "Photograph >> needed" label. >> >> > Yes I agree we could reinforce this better... > > >> * In list view, the gray boxes are gradually replaced with photographs >> where they exist. Ultimately I end up with some remaining gray boxes, >> which I can infer are cases where a photo is missing. But it seems >> like we want to have a different icon in list view for "We don't have >> a photo at all" vs. "We're still checking whether we have a photo". >> Perhaps a spinner while it's checking? >> >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38936 :-) > > > >> 3) Small UX confusion >> >> * I have been repeatedly confused by the proximity of the "Back" arrow >> to the "Map view / List view" selector. They look like they're a >> single widget. I would suggest moving the "Map view" vs. "List view" >> indicator to the right, detaching it from the "Back" arrow. >> >> > We've had similar comments from Matthew Roth so agree this should be > thought about. > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > -- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810

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CC-BY on Facebook
by Matthew Roth 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Hi all, So there is an issue we need to address. After sharing a couple of the recent Top 10 country photo posts from WLM 2011 on Facebook, I was gently reminded about an issue that has come up already with CC-BY-SA licensing and Facebook. The Wikimedia Foundation Legal and Community Advocacy department wrote some guidance on this matter (not legal advice, but an attempt to clarify): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/CC-BY-SA_on_Fa… For the applicable section of CC-BY-SA, see 4(a) and 4(b) here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode The relevant part of the Facebook terms: "you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License)." https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms Essentially, if you upload your own photo, you have the right to grant multiple licenses, so you would be fine. But as the guidance notes, if you're uploading others' photos, you don't have the right to grant a license. These Top-10 galleries are very nice, but they are also likely not a good idea with the way Facebook sub-licenses. I'm going to stop sharing these galleries on the Wikipedia Facebook page for this reason and start pointing to the Commons page where they are all listed: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011_winners I won't give others advice, since IANAL, but at a minimum, every WLM photo should be properly licensed, which means that it must have a link to the actual CC-BY-SA license page. For example, this photo is not quite licensed correctly. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=483806128315982&set=a.4838058849826… In addition to the name of the author and the license text, it must have a link to the CC-BY-SA 3.0 Unported license page here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en For example, this one is missing all the necessary licensing info: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=489888381041090&set=a.4898883343744… Arguably these photos probably shouldn't even be on Facebook like they are, but again IANAL and I'm not giving you legal advice. That's a decision for you all to make. thanks, Matthew -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *https://donate.wikimedia.org*

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Bot fix
by Paul Selitskas 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

I still don't know who maintains the bot that processes monuments lists, so I put the following request here. We delete monuments with unclear copyright status from the lists in Belarus, but we don't want to delete them at all. We just hide them from the visitors (temporarily). We want the bot not to add monuments which have parameter "схаваць" specified. -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selitskas(a)gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas

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sponsoring the WLM contest
by Barbara Fischer 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Hi, as there have been some confusions concerning the notebooks and other sponsorings: If You like please add following sponsors to Your website such as lettera27 <http://www.lettera27.org> sponsoring all together 288 notebooks. These are *paper* volants with a Wiki Loves Monuments imprint on the front. Value: 450.- € dieUmweltdruckerei <http://www.dieumweltdruckerei.de> sponsoring all together 500 calendars on Wiki Loves Monuments 2013. Value: 1755.- € on more regional level for German speaking participants: meaning Switzerland, Austria, Germany and Luxembourg O'Reilly <http://www.oreilly.de> sponsoring all together 40 books "Der perfekte Moment". Value: 1400 € I still wait for O'Reilly international to answer, whether they might sponsor the same title in English for more chapters. Please check aslo our partners as listed on : http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/partners/. The page will be updated soon. Thanks Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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A few WLM app questions
by Erik Moeller 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

[Cross-posting to mobile list] Hi Phil & mobile team, a few questions/comments from playing with the WLM app. 1) Filenames of uploaded files Right now files appear to follow the following pattern: [Name of monument] (taken on [timestamp in DDMMMYYYY HHhrsMMminsSSsecs]).jpeg First question: Is there a reason we're using ".jpeg" instead of the more common ".jpg" extension? Second question: What are the motivations for the full timestamp in the pattern? Is it primarily uniqueness? If so I would suggest (re-)considering other approaches to achieve uniqueness (e.g. obtaining a unique suffix like 001, 002). This pattern seems pretty verbose; I do see some files with date-stamps in the name on Commons (and it's encouraged per https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_naming ), but very few that have the full timestamp. 2) Indicating to the user what needs to be done As a user, I've found the indicators where my help is needed not entirely obvious. * The red place-marks vs. gray place-marks iconography - are we explaining this anywhere in the UI? I was ultimately able to infer it, but it might be nice to have this explained e.g. by having the icon repeated in the detail view with a "Existing image" or "Photograph needed" label. * In list view, the gray boxes are gradually replaced with photographs where they exist. Ultimately I end up with some remaining gray boxes, which I can infer are cases where a photo is missing. But it seems like we want to have a different icon in list view for "We don't have a photo at all" vs. "We're still checking whether we have a photo". Perhaps a spinner while it's checking? 3) Small UX confusion * I have been repeatedly confused by the proximity of the "Back" arrow to the "Map view / List view" selector. They look like they're a single widget. I would suggest moving the "Map view" vs. "List view" indicator to the right, detaching it from the "Back" arrow. 4) Analytics Do we have any tracking at all for actions/errors within the app? It would be nice to rig up at least basic tracking for API errors and other issues during upload, so we know if lots of users are trying and failing for some reason (e.g. aborting at the login step, experiencing connection issues). Ori from the E3 team might be able to help rig something up. - - - I think issue 2) could be a potential major factor that could frustrate users. But this is just my feedback, so do with it what you will. That's it. I've encountered a couple bugs but want to spend a bit more time in BZ to ensure I'm not reporting known stuff. The app overall is coming together nicely and it's very slick (I especially like the aggregation of monument counts at the lower zoom levels, the "Use my current location" feature, and the integration of links to Wikipedia). Congrats on the work so far and looking forward to launch. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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WLM app account confirmation delay
by Axel Pettersson 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

Hi,Will accounts created with the WLM app be confirmed right away or will there be a note somewhere saying that they must confirm their account before beeing able to upload images? A friend who tested was unable to upload until after four days and the explanation was "Permission denied". Does it make a difference when uploads will be made to Commons instead of Test? Is it possible to change that to something saying "Confirm your account by ..." or something like that? /axel ==================================== Axel PetterssonProjektledare GLAM/OutreachWikimedia Sverige mobil +46 (0)730 59 58 13 haxpett(a)hotmail.com axel.pettersson(a)wikimedia.seTwitter: @Haxpett Wikimedia.se - Stöd fri kunskap!

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WLM Serbia facebook page
by Tamara Petrovic 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

Hello, I have created the page on Facebook for WLM Serbia - http://www.facebook.com/WikiLovesMonumentsSerbia I may have missed that part in the discussion on the mailing list, but am I allowed to put photos of the last year's winners (as on the official WLM Facebook page), due to some FB copyrights? Cheers, Tamara

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