On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.comwrote:
From the end:
Amir E. Aharoni, 26/11/2013 10:01:
[The reason I say that the current situation "probably makes the
Installer get less attention than it deserves" is that I am not aware of any easy way to compare translation statistics between different message groups. Can anybody think of anything other than going to Special:MessageGroupStats and manually comparing the numbers?]
If you think we should keep an eye on it, it should be added to https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Group_statistics
Hallo,
The MediaWiki Installer is in a somewhat unique position with regards to localization: Its code and messages are a part of the core repository, but it has a separate i18n file. The messages do not appear in the core group in TWN, and it is listed as an extension.
It is not a part of the in the "Extensions used by Wikimedia" meta-group. That is probably correct technically, because these strings are unlikely to be seen by end users of Wikimedia projects (the only scenario I can think of is installing MediaWiki on labs instances). However, this probably makes the Installer get less attention than it deserves and this hurts other users of MediaWiki (see below about "probably").
I thought about adding it to core, but it has around 300 messages, which is a bit heavy. Then I thought to list it as a separate group so that it would appear in the TUX groups selector when people would search for "mediawiki". Any other thoughts?
The "extensions used by Wikimedia" group already has some super-huge extensions which almost no wiki uses, e.g. EducationProgram. I don't see any reason not to add it there, where it won't affect the stats required by Wikimedia LangCom's language policy or anything else.
The installer is not used by Wikimedia, so it won't be part of the group 'Extensions used by Wikimedia'. Because I agree that the installer could need a little more exposure, I've made two changes:
* Installer is now at the MediaWiki main level of Special:LanguageStats[1,2] * Installer is now reported in the overview stats that are generated on daily basis[3,4]
[1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/97708/2/groups/MediaWiki/MediaWiki.yaml [2] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:LanguageStats [3] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/97889/1/bin/stats-mediawiki [4] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Group_statistics
Cheers!
Siebrand