Gerard wrote:
Hoi, When the language committee takes the lead and decides one way or the other, it makes a recommendation to the board of trustees. Ultimately the decision is theirs. We do not need to consider that this is a situation where nobody was willing to act. Thanks, GerardM
Just for the record, this is disingenuous. This position is only formally true in the case of project creations, and only slightly more realistically true in the case of project closures and deletions. Basically, the Board has delegated these responsibilities to this Committee. (We don't even have to notify the Board officially of project creations any more, only of closures.) Unless the Board actively intervenes, it takes this Committee's action (or inaction) as the official WMF position on a question.
Steven
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1. Re: Croatian Wikipedia (Ilario Valdelli) 2. Re: Croatian Wikipedia (Gerard Meijssen)
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 09:40:28 +0000 From: Ilario Valdelli ivaldelli@wikimedia.ch To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Langcom] Croatian Wikipedia Message-ID: VI1P192MB01579BBB7802B8CEDBA77CB6DDBE0@VI1P192MB0157.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
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My 2 cents
As I know Serbian uses cyrillic Chars while Croatian use neolatin.
Kind regards
________________________________ From: Langcom langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 11:06:19 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Langcom] Croatian Wikipedia
And would it be true that if Croatian was to apply now they would be denied as Serbian already exists?
James
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 3:00 AM Ilario Valdelli <ivaldelli@wikimedia.chmailto:ivaldelli@wikimedia.ch> wrote: Speaking with a Serbian of another association, there not a significant difference between the two languages.
Kind regards
________________________________ From: Langcom <langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.commailto:jmh649@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:43:24 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Croatian Wikipedia
One question, we have Crotian and Serbo-Croatian... How significant is the difference?
J
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:43 AM Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.ilmailto:amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: The Stewards, indeed, sound like the first people to talk to about this.
The Language committee should be about the languages themselves, and not so much about what is said in them.
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בתאריך יום ב׳, 2 בספט׳ 2019 ב-9:34 מאת Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.commailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>: Hoi, We could. However, we are not the best positioned group to do so. The stewards come to mind. The trust and safety committee.. but to be honest the board of trustees is the organisation that indicates the importance of these issues, has a responsibility to us as a movement and it can direct the WMF to do whatever. Thanks, GerardM
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 07:25, James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.commailto:jmh649@gmail.com> wrote: Wondering if this group would be interested in bringing forwards a proposal?
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 11:50:00 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Langcom] Croatian Wikipedia Message-ID: CAO53wxUSHJZdE1Dxr_AW-CmcOCmAmyep9Km=ra_X35cxUQs4UQ@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hoi, When the language committee takes the lead and decides one way or the other, it makes a recommendation to the board of trustees. Ultimately the decision is theirs. We do not need to consider that this is a situation where nobody was willing to act. Thanks, GerardM
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 09:30, Ilario Valdelli ivaldelli@wikimedia.ch wrote:
I think that the problem is so serious and it exists for long time that a single committee cannot do a lot eventi if it does not concern their tasks.
Anyways it has been communicated several times and if it remains the solution has never been taken.
Kind regards
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Wondering if this group would be interested in bringing forwards a proposal?
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