I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campida... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/sro
Sorry for being late w.r.t the "deadline", but there are a lot of mails here recently! ;)
A user wrote on the request page that "Sardinian Wikipedia invites the user to write in Campidanese dialect, it is just written in the section Iscrie in Sardu (Write in Sardinian). The new wiki is not really necessary." Maybe we should first find out how the situation on Sardinian Wikipedia (sc.wp) really is, especially since interest in contributing to a separate project has been very low: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/sro&...
2017-01-20 14:09 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_ Campidanese_Sardinian [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/sro
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We obviously need the input of an expert here. And I am sure it shouldn't be hard to find an expert in romance languages (BTW, Sardinian is pretty mainstream in the sense that even de Saussure discusses it shortly). Any idea?
The tricky issue with standard Romance languages of Italy is that they could be pretty different, no matter how close they are geographically.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:01 AM, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry for being late w.r.t the "deadline", but there are a lot of mails here recently! ;)
A user wrote on the request page that "Sardinian Wikipedia invites the user to write in Campidanese dialect, it is just written in the section Iscrie in Sardu (Write in Sardinian). The new wiki is not really necessary." Maybe we should first find out how the situation on Sardinian Wikipedia (sc.wp) really is, especially since interest in contributing to a separate project has been very low: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/sro&...
2017-01-20 14:09 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campida... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/sro
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Hey, Luca, may you (or somebody else from WM IT) find for us an Italian linguist specialized in Romance language and able to give us recommendations in relation to the Campidanese Sardinian (and other Italian languages)?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
We obviously need the input of an expert here. And I am sure it shouldn't be hard to find an expert in romance languages (BTW, Sardinian is pretty mainstream in the sense that even de Saussure discusses it shortly). Any idea?
The tricky issue with standard Romance languages of Italy is that they could be pretty different, no matter how close they are geographically.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:01 AM, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry for being late w.r.t the "deadline", but there are a lot of mails here recently! ;)
A user wrote on the request page that "Sardinian Wikipedia invites the user to write in Campidanese dialect, it is just written in the section Iscrie in Sardu (Write in Sardinian). The new wiki is not really necessary." Maybe we should first find out how the situation on Sardinian Wikipedia (sc.wp) really is, especially since interest in contributing to a separate project has been very low: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/sro&...
2017-01-20 14:09 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campida... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/sro
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Hey Milos, I can put you in contact with a couple of Sardinian users, who can be surely more helpful than me. :)
L.
2017-02-20 4:56 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
Hey, Luca, may you (or somebody else from WM IT) find for us an Italian linguist specialized in Romance language and able to give us recommendations in relation to the Campidanese Sardinian (and other Italian languages)?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
We obviously need the input of an expert here. And I am sure it shouldn't be hard to find an expert in romance languages (BTW, Sardinian is pretty mainstream in the sense that even de Saussure discusses it shortly). Any idea?
The tricky issue with standard Romance languages of Italy is that they could be pretty different, no matter how close they are geographically.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:01 AM, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry for being late w.r.t the "deadline", but there are a lot of mails here recently! ;)
A user wrote on the request page that "Sardinian Wikipedia invites the user to write in Campidanese dialect, it is just written in the section Iscrie in Sardu (Write in Sardinian). The new wiki is not really necessary." Maybe we should first find out how the situation on Sardinian Wikipedia (sc.wp) really is, especially since interest in contributing to a separate project has been very low: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/sro&...
2017-01-20 14:09 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campida... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/sro
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Luca, thank you very much for connecting me with a Sardinian editor, who has described to me the situation in detail.
In short, there are two distinctive enough varieties of Sardinian (in other words, ISO 639-3 describes reality) and one standard imposed by Italian government, which used "elephant in the room" approach.
The events are quite recent and I suggest the following approach:
1) Allowing Wikipedia and other projects in Campidanese [1] and Logudorese Sardinian [2] (when requested). I would make an exception for Wikisource and ask the community to work on one project.
2) Keeping sc.wikipedia.org presently for so called "Limba Sarda Comuna" [3] (link to the article on Italian Wikipedia), the 2006 standard, which is a kind of mix of the two language varieties. It seems that it won't survive, as the trends are, actually, to create two standards. If the unified standard fails in the next 10 years, close Wikipedia.
Deadline for objections for eligible status of Campidanese Sardinian Wikipedia is March 1st.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logudorese_dialect [3] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limba_Sarda_Comuna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Luca Martinelli martinelliluca@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Milos, I can put you in contact with a couple of Sardinian users, who can be surely more helpful than me. :)
L.
2017-02-20 4:56 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
Hey, Luca, may you (or somebody else from WM IT) find for us an Italian linguist specialized in Romance language and able to give us recommendations in relation to the Campidanese Sardinian (and other Italian languages)?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
We obviously need the input of an expert here. And I am sure it shouldn't be hard to find an expert in romance languages (BTW, Sardinian is pretty mainstream in the sense that even de Saussure discusses it shortly). Any idea?
The tricky issue with standard Romance languages of Italy is that they could be pretty different, no matter how close they are geographically.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:01 AM, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry for being late w.r.t the "deadline", but there are a lot of mails here recently! ;)
A user wrote on the request page that "Sardinian Wikipedia invites the user to write in Campidanese dialect, it is just written in the section Iscrie in Sardu (Write in Sardinian). The new wiki is not really necessary." Maybe we should first find out how the situation on Sardinian Wikipedia (sc.wp) really is, especially since interest in contributing to a separate project has been very low: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/sro&...
2017-01-20 14:09 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campida... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/sro
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-- Luca "Sannita" Martinelli http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Sannita
Marked as eligible.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
We obviously need the input of an expert here. And I am sure it shouldn't be hard to find an expert in romance languages (BTW, Sardinian is pretty mainstream in the sense that even de Saussure discusses it shortly). Any idea?
The tricky issue with standard Romance languages of Italy is that they could be pretty different, no matter how close they are geographically.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:01 AM, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry for being late w.r.t the "deadline", but there are a lot of mails here recently! ;)
A user wrote on the request page that "Sardinian Wikipedia invites the user to write in Campidanese dialect, it is just written in the section Iscrie in Sardu (Write in Sardinian). The new wiki is not really necessary." Maybe we should first find out how the situation on Sardinian Wikipedia (sc.wp) really is, especially since interest in contributing to a separate project has been very low: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/sro&...
2017-01-20 14:09 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
I suggest eligible status for the Wikipedia in Campidanese Sardinian [1]. It's used primarily for oral communication, but it's a standardized variety, with literature heritage. [2][3].
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campida... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campidanese_dialect [3] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/sro
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