Wikipedia Simple Frenchhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_French_Simple_3: This request proposes to create the Simple French Wikipedia using français fondamental, which LangCom has explicitly cited as an example of a simple Wikipedia that would be allowable under current rules. At the same time, current rules wouldn't allow a simple French project on Incubator; instead, the preference would be to incubate that within French Wikipedia. (If nothing else, allowing Simple French on Incubator, but no other simple project, would open an enormous can of worms ...) I think what I am going to do here is to email the user and ask him if he has ever taken up the idea of incubating within French Wikipedia with that community—and if so, what that community responded. If, though, the community does not want to do so, do I allow in Incubator? Encourage them to incubate within Incubator Plus? (OWTB and I are in the process of creating a replacement Incubator Plus somewhere else besides Wikia.) I'd strongly appreciate people's thoughts about these questions.
Wikipedia Sherpahttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sherpa (xsr): Only one mainspace page. Closing as stale.
Wikipedia Ottoman Turkishhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ottoman_Turkish_4 (ota): This is a large, periodically active test. It last had pages added in June 2018. It's different enough from modern Turkish that I don't think a script converter does the job here. I'm not sure why this would be less eligible than Coptic, for example, given its historical importance and literature. Thoughts?
Wikipedia Goalpariya (Rangpuri)https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Goalpariya (rkt): 8 pages created over three years (2012–15). 15 million speakers. Marking as eligible.
Wikipedia Hawaiian Pidginhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Hawaiian_Pidgin (hwc): Different from Hawaiian. But there is no test on Incubator. Closing as stale.
Wikipedia Jewish Bablyonian (Talmudic) Aramaichttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Jewish_Babylonian_Aramaic (tmr): The principal language of the Bablyonian Talmud. Test had a page added this year, but its other five mainspace pages date back to around the time of the request. Shall we just close as stale, or shall I contact the original proposer?
Steven
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I'd close Talmudic Aramaic as ineligible. It's a dead language, studied by many people (especially Jews) for religious or academic purposes, but not useful for writing an encyclopedia. It has no native or monolingual speakers. All the people who know it also know Hebrew, English or other languages. Books in this language are comfortably hosted in the Hebrew Wikisource.
בתאריך 7 באוג׳ 2018 16:13, "Steven White" Koala19890@hotmail.com כתב:
Wikipedia Simple French https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_French_Simple_3: This request proposes to create the Simple French Wikipedia using français fondamental, which LangCom has explicitly cited as an example of a simple Wikipedia that would be allowable under current rules. At the same time, current rules wouldn't allow a simple French project on Incubator; instead, the preference would be to incubate that within French Wikipedia. (If nothing else, allowing Simple French on Incubator, but no other simple project, would open an enormous can of worms ...) I think what I am going to do here is to email the user and ask him if he has ever taken up the idea of incubating within French Wikipedia with that community—and if so, what that community responded. If, though, the community does not want to do so, do I allow in Incubator? Encourage them to incubate within Incubator Plus? (OWTB and I are in the process of creating a replacement Incubator Plus somewhere else besides Wikia.) I'd strongly appreciate people's thoughts about these questions.
Wikipedia Sherpa https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sherpa (xsr): Only one mainspace page. Closing as stale.
Wikipedia Ottoman Turkish https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ottoman_Turkish_4 (ota): This is a large, periodically active test. It last had pages added in June 2018. It's different enough from modern Turkish that I don't think a script converter does the job here. I'm not sure why this would be less eligible than Coptic, for example, given its historical importance and literature. Thoughts?
Wikipedia Goalpariya (Rangpuri) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Goalpariya (rkt): 8 pages created over three years (2012–15). 15 million speakers. Marking as eligible.
Wikipedia Hawaiian Pidgin https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Hawaiian_Pidgin (hwc): Different from Hawaiian. But there is no test on Incubator. Closing as stale.
Wikipedia Jewish Bablyonian (Talmudic) Aramaic https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Jewish_Babylonian_Aramaic (tmr): The principal language of the Bablyonian Talmud. Test had a page added this year, but its other five mainspace pages date back to around the time of the request. Shall we just close as stale, or shall I contact the original proposer?
Steven
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I'd close Talmudic Aramaic as ineligible. It's a dead language, studied by many people (especially Jews) for religious or academic purposes, but not useful for writing an encyclopedia. It has no native or monolingual speakers. All the people who know it also know Hebrew, English or other languages. Books in this language are comfortably hosted in the Hebrew Wikisource.
בתאריך 7 באוג׳ 2018 16:13, "Steven White" Koala19890@hotmail.com כתב: Wikipedia Simple French: This request proposes to create the Simple French Wikipedia using français fondamental, which LangCom has explicitly cited as an example of a simple Wikipedia that would be allowable under current rules. At the same time, current rules wouldn't allow a simple French project on Incubator; instead, the preference would be to incubate that within French Wikipedia. (If nothing else, allowing Simple French on Incubator, but no other simple project, would open an enormous can of worms ...) I think what I am going to do here is to email the user and ask him if he has ever taken up the idea of incubating within French Wikipedia with that community—and if so, what that community responded. If, though, the community does not want to do so, do I allow in Incubator? Encourage them to incubate within Incubator Plus? (OWTB and I are in the process of creating a replacement Incubator Plus somewhere else besides Wikia.) I'd strongly appreciate people's thoughts about these questions.
Wikipedia Sherpa (xsr): Only one mainspace page. Closing as stale.
Wikipedia Ottoman Turkish (ota): This is a large, periodically active test. It last had pages added in June 2018. It's different enough from modern Turkish that I don't think a script converter does the job here. I'm not sure why this would be less eligible than Coptic, for example, given its historical importance and literature. Thoughts?
Wikipedia Goalpariya (Rangpuri) (rkt): 8 pages created over three years (2012–15). 15 million speakers. Marking as eligible.
Wikipedia Hawaiian Pidgin (hwc): Different from Hawaiian. But there is no test on Incubator. Closing as stale.
Wikipedia Jewish Bablyonian (Talmudic) Aramaic (tmr): The principal language of the Bablyonian Talmud. Test had a page added this year, but its other five mainspace pages date back to around the time of the request. Shall we just close as stale, or shall I contact the original proposer?
Steven
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