We were requested to give input on < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230382%3E: "Remove aliases `minnan` and `zh-cfr` for the Min Nan Wikipedia". This concerns interwiki links only. Does anyone have any thoughts? Personally, I don't see what speaks against the removal, if these are unused.
<nan> used in ISO 639-3 is the current Min Nan language, and the interwiki is working. So if <zh-cfr> and <minnan> aren't being used, I don't guess there's much of a problem removing them.
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2023년 1월 22일 (일) 오전 1:00, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com님이 작성:
We were requested to give input on < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230382%3E: "Remove aliases `minnan` and `zh-cfr` for the Min Nan Wikipedia". This concerns interwiki links only. Does anyone have any thoughts? Personally, I don't see what speaks against the removal, if these are unused. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
I agree with removal, however, before such removal all wikis should be searched for such links and those should be obviously fixed.
It should be kept in mind, that they don't have to be only as simple as [ [minnan:Foo]], but more combined such as [[w:minnan:Foo]], [[minnan:w:Foo]], also with leading colon like [[:minnan:Foo]] or [[:w:minnan:Foo]] or even as obscure as [[:m:w:minnan:Foo]]. The same applies for zh-cfr of course.
Kind regards
Danny B.
---------- Původní e-mail ---------- Od: Sotiale Wiki sotiale.wm@gmail.com Komu: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 23. 1. 2023 5:08:11 Předmět: [Langcom] Re: Min Nan aliases " <nan> used in ISO 639-3 is the current Min Nan language, and the interwiki is working. So if <zh-cfr> and <minnan> aren't being used, I don't guess there's much of a problem removing them.
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2023년 1월 22일 (일) 오전 1:00, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com (mailto:mfwarburg@googlemail.com)>님이 작성:
" We were requested to give input on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T 230382(https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230382): "Remove aliases `minnan` and `zh-cfr` for the Min Nan Wikipedia". This concerns interwiki links only. Does anyone have any thoughts? Personally, I don't see what speaks against the removal, if these are unused.
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Hoi, In the past many requests for changes to the domains for projects just did not happen. It is quite complicated we were told... It would be cool when it is technical feasible.
Thanks, GerardM
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 13:14, Danny B. Wikipedia.Danny.B@email.cz wrote:
I agree with removal, however, before such removal all wikis should be searched for such links and those should be obviously fixed.
It should be kept in mind, that they don't have to be only as simple as [[minnan:Foo]], but more combined such as [[w:minnan:Foo]], [[minnan:w:Foo]], also with leading colon like [[:minnan:Foo]] or [[:w:minnan:Foo]] or even as obscure as [[:m:w:minnan:Foo]]. The same applies for zh-cfr of course.
Kind regards
Danny B.
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Datum: 23. 1. 2023 5:08:11 Předmět: [Langcom] Re: Min Nan aliases
<nan> used in ISO 639-3 is the current Min Nan language, and the interwiki is working. So if <zh-cfr> and <minnan> aren't being used, I don't guess there's much of a problem removing them.
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2023년 1월 22일 (일) 오전 1:00, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com님이 작성:
We were requested to give input on < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230382%3E: "Remove aliases `minnan` and `zh-cfr` for the Min Nan Wikipedia". This concerns interwiki links only. Does anyone have any thoughts? Personally, I don't see what speaks against the removal, if these are unused. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Sure, changing the domain would be nice. However that is not what is being asked here.
I agree that it should be unproblematic to remove those language codes from the MediaWiki code, providing the precautions Danny B. mentions are met.
tir. 24. jan. 2023, 15:41 skrev Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, In the past many requests for changes to the domains for projects just did not happen. It is quite complicated we were told... It would be cool when it is technical feasible.
Thanks, GerardM
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 13:14, Danny B. Wikipedia.Danny.B@email.cz wrote:
I agree with removal, however, before such removal all wikis should be searched for such links and those should be obviously fixed.
It should be kept in mind, that they don't have to be only as simple as [[minnan:Foo]], but more combined such as [[w:minnan:Foo]], [[minnan:w:Foo]], also with leading colon like [[:minnan:Foo]] or [[:w:minnan:Foo]] or even as obscure as [[:m:w:minnan:Foo]]. The same applies for zh-cfr of course.
Kind regards
Danny B.
---------- Původní e-mail ---------- Od: Sotiale Wiki sotiale.wm@gmail.com Komu: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee < langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> Datum: 23. 1. 2023 5:08:11 Předmět: [Langcom] Re: Min Nan aliases
<nan> used in ISO 639-3 is the current Min Nan language, and the interwiki is working. So if <zh-cfr> and <minnan> aren't being used, I don't guess there's much of a problem removing them.
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2023년 1월 22일 (일) 오전 1:00, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com님이 작성:
We were requested to give input on < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230382%3E: "Remove aliases `minnan` and `zh-cfr` for the Min Nan Wikipedia". This concerns interwiki links only. Does anyone have any thoughts? Personally, I don't see what speaks against the removal, if these are unused. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I agree with you about the existing interwiki contents. There seems to be no objection to its removal itself, if there is a technical workaround. Once we hear back on this, we discuss it again.
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2023년 1월 25일 (수) 오전 5:30, Jon Harald Søby jhsoby@gmail.com님이 작성:
Sure, changing the domain would be nice. However that is not what is being asked here.
I agree that it should be unproblematic to remove those language codes from the MediaWiki code, providing the precautions Danny B. mentions are met.
tir. 24. jan. 2023, 15:41 skrev Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
:
Hoi, In the past many requests for changes to the domains for projects just did not happen. It is quite complicated we were told... It would be cool when it is technical feasible.
Thanks, GerardM
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 13:14, Danny B. Wikipedia.Danny.B@email.cz wrote:
I agree with removal, however, before such removal all wikis should be searched for such links and those should be obviously fixed.
It should be kept in mind, that they don't have to be only as simple as [[minnan:Foo]], but more combined such as [[w:minnan:Foo]], [[minnan:w:Foo]], also with leading colon like [[:minnan:Foo]] or [[:w:minnan:Foo]] or even as obscure as [[:m:w:minnan:Foo]]. The same applies for zh-cfr of course.
Kind regards
Danny B.
---------- Původní e-mail ---------- Od: Sotiale Wiki sotiale.wm@gmail.com Komu: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee < langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> Datum: 23. 1. 2023 5:08:11 Předmět: [Langcom] Re: Min Nan aliases
<nan> used in ISO 639-3 is the current Min Nan language, and the interwiki is working. So if <zh-cfr> and <minnan> aren't being used, I don't guess there's much of a problem removing them.
Sotiale
2023년 1월 22일 (일) 오전 1:00, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com님이 작성:
We were requested to give input on < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230382%3E: "Remove aliases `minnan` and `zh-cfr` for the Min Nan Wikipedia". This concerns interwiki links only. Does anyone have any thoughts? Personally, I don't see what speaks against the removal, if these are unused. _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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