Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Prussia....
Prussian was considered to have gone extinct in the 18th century, and for a while was listed in ISO 639-3 as "extinct". Indeed, that was the situation when the project was first proposed in 2007. However, in 2009, its listing in ISO was changed from "extinct" to "living", due to a robust effort to revive the language. Indeed, the Wikipedia articlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussian_language#Revived_Old_Prussian suggests that there are now a few children who are natively bilingual.
The revival effort is not based on this Wikipedia. The test project has been moderately active over the years, but certainly not at a level that would start us contemplating approval. But to me this is further evidence that the revival is real and legitimate on its own, and not the very reason for a Prussian Wikipedia project.
One person commenting on the request page suggests that prg should not be the language code for the revival. Still, the fact that the ISO listing was changed to "living" suggests that at least for now, the standards authority is willing to accept that, so we should be, too.
Accordingly, I recommend that this project be marked "eligible".
Steven
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Hoi, What is the current status as to localisation, the number of articles ? Thanks, GerardM
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Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Prussia... .
Prussian was considered to have gone extinct in the 18th century, and for a while was listed in ISO 639-3 as "extinct". Indeed, that was the situation when the project was first proposed in 2007. However, in 2009, its listing in ISO was changed from "extinct" to "living", due to a robust effort to revive the language. Indeed, the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussian_language#Revived_Old_Prussian suggests that there are now a few children who are natively bilingual.
The revival effort is not based on this Wikipedia. The test project has been moderately active over the years, but certainly not at a level that would start us contemplating approval. But to me this is further evidence that the revival is real and legitimate on its own, and not the very reason for a Prussian Wikipedia project.
One person commenting on the request page suggests that prg should not be the language code for the revival. Still, the fact that the ISO listing was changed to "living" suggests that at least for now, the standards authority is willing to accept that, so we should be, too.
Accordingly, I recommend that this project be marked "eligible".
Steven
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It has 38 pages, of which 12 were created in 2019. MediaWiki most important is 50% translated, and MediaWiki core 35% translated.
This project is by no means ready for a final approval process. But it has continued to have meaningful activity, and a reasonable start has been made on localisation.
Steven
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________________________________ From: Langcom langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:06 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Langcom] Eligibility of Prussian Wikipedia
Hoi, What is the current status as to localisation, the number of articles ? Thanks, GerardM
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 15:37, Steven White <Koala19890@hotmail.commailto:Koala19890@hotmail.com> wrote: Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Prussia...https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Prussian_2&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5d1badf5da704247c3c708d767821b79%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637091680816752289&sdata=EEJ7G9wpD7jedaVaqxjLfVTB6v3dqxYPcX%2FisbeTFtY%3D&reserved=0.
Prussian was considered to have gone extinct in the 18th century, and for a while was listed in ISO 639-3 as "extinct". Indeed, that was the situation when the project was first proposed in 2007. However, in 2009, its listing in ISO was changed from "extinct" to "living", due to a robust effort to revive the language. Indeed, the Wikipedia articlehttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FOld_Prussian_language%23Revived_Old_Prussian&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5d1badf5da704247c3c708d767821b79%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637091680816762294&sdata=W%2BLCkxybxc7CNQEKlDW56qaZ2xEP3E66Uygk3i2fEmU%3D&reserved=0 suggests that there are now a few children who are natively bilingual.
The revival effort is not based on this Wikipedia. The test project has been moderately active over the years, but certainly not at a level that would start us contemplating approval. But to me this is further evidence that the revival is real and legitimate on its own, and not the very reason for a Prussian Wikipedia project.
One person commenting on the request page suggests that prg should not be the language code for the revival. Still, the fact that the ISO listing was changed to "living" suggests that at least for now, the standards authority is willing to accept that, so we should be, too.
Accordingly, I recommend that this project be marked "eligible".
Steven
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It’s as valid as Cornish!
On 12 Nov 2019, at 14:37, Steven White Koala19890@hotmail.com wrote:
Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Prussia....
Prussian was considered to have gone extinct in the 18th century, and for a while was listed in ISO 639-3 as "extinct". Indeed, that was the situation when the project was first proposed in 2007. However, in 2009, its listing in ISO was changed from "extinct" to "living", due to a robust effort to revive the language. Indeed, the Wikipedia article suggests that there are now a few children who are natively bilingual.
The revival effort is not based on this Wikipedia. The test project has been moderately active over the years, but certainly not at a level that would start us contemplating approval. But to me this is further evidence that the revival is real and legitimate on its own, and not the very reason for a Prussian Wikipedia project.
One person commenting on the request page suggests that prg should not be the language code for the revival. Still, the fact that the ISO listing was changed to "living" suggests that at least for now, the standards authority is willing to accept that, so we should be, too.
Accordingly, I recommend that this project be marked "eligible".
Steven
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I've heard no objections at all, so I am marking as "eligible". Reminder: this is far from approvable. Steven
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________________________________ From: Langcom langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Michael Everson everson@evertype.com Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:06 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Langcom] Eligibility of Prussian Wikipedia
It’s as valid as Cornish!
On 12 Nov 2019, at 14:37, Steven White Koala19890@hotmail.com wrote:
Please see https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikim....
Prussian was considered to have gone extinct in the 18th century, and for a while was listed in ISO 639-3 as "extinct". Indeed, that was the situation when the project was first proposed in 2007. However, in 2009, its listing in ISO was changed from "extinct" to "living", due to a robust effort to revive the language. Indeed, the Wikipedia article suggests that there are now a few children who are natively bilingual.
The revival effort is not based on this Wikipedia. The test project has been moderately active over the years, but certainly not at a level that would start us contemplating approval. But to me this is further evidence that the revival is real and legitimate on its own, and not the very reason for a Prussian Wikipedia project.
One person commenting on the request page suggests that prg should not be the language code for the revival. Still, the fact that the ISO listing was changed to "living" suggests that at least for now, the standards authority is willing to accept that, so we should be, too.
Accordingly, I recommend that this project be marked "eligible".
Steven
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