Hallo!
I am going through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages , project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter J.
== Jju == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Jju Code: kaj My take: Eligible. The English Wikipedia quotes one linguist who thinks that the separation between Jju (kaj) and Tyap (kcg), in which there already is a Wikipedia, is "an ethnic rather than a linguistic reality". If that's true, then it doesn't pass the "sufficiently unique" test. However, I saw some texts in both languages, and even though I don't know them at all, they look quite different to me. Does anyone disagree?
== Jutish / Jutlandic == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Jutish Code: jut My take: I'm not sure. I can think of two options: 1. Not eligible because according to https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/jut , the standards body now considers this language as Historical: it had some written literature in the past, but now it's classified as a dialect of Danish. So procedurally, it can be said to be in more or less the same status as Akkadian, Ancient Greek, and Ottoman Turkish. 2. Borderline eligible because the code kind of does exist, the dialect is living in speech (albeit I don't know how different is it from standard Danish), and some people seem to be trying to write it seriously even though ISO 639 says that it's no longer written. Perhaps our members who know Germanic languages better than I do can weigh in or find an expert who can consult on the matter. The English Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutlandic mentions some cultural and research institutions that work with this dialect. If no one else thinks that option 2 deserves a chance, I'm fine with rejecting.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Thanks to Amir, I think all requests will be reviewed through this opportunity :)
But, is there a way to make it so that it can be processed by a bot rather than manually? https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages&...
If possible, it would be great if the foundation could help langcom with the small details that can help with the processing.
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2024년 10월 16일 (수) 오후 10:06, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il님이 작성:
Hallo!
I am going through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages , project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter J.
== Jju == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Jju Code: kaj My take: Eligible. The English Wikipedia quotes one linguist who thinks that the separation between Jju (kaj) and Tyap (kcg), in which there already is a Wikipedia, is "an ethnic rather than a linguistic reality". If that's true, then it doesn't pass the "sufficiently unique" test. However, I saw some texts in both languages, and even though I don't know them at all, they look quite different to me. Does anyone disagree?
== Jutish / Jutlandic == Request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Jutish Code: jut My take: I'm not sure. I can think of two options:
- Not eligible because according to https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/jut ,
the standards body now considers this language as Historical: it had some written literature in the past, but now it's classified as a dialect of Danish. So procedurally, it can be said to be in more or less the same status as Akkadian, Ancient Greek, and Ottoman Turkish. 2. Borderline eligible because the code kind of does exist, the dialect is living in speech (albeit I don't know how different is it from standard Danish), and some people seem to be trying to write it seriously even though ISO 639 says that it's no longer written. Perhaps our members who know Germanic languages better than I do can weigh in or find an expert who can consult on the matter. The English Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutlandic mentions some cultural and research institutions that work with this dialect. If no one else thinks that option 2 deserves a chance, I'm fine with rejecting.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-leave@lists.wikimedia.org