I am proposing approval of the Guianan Creole Wikipediahttps://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/gcr. It has ticked off all the boxes it needs to tick off: active community, interface translation, reasonable number of pages.
The one potential problem with this test is that the ratio of articles to stubs is low. (That is, it has a lot of stubs, compared to quality articles.) The reason for this is that the small, but enthusiastic, team working on the test project kept wanting some guidance from LangCom as to how much content was needed in order to get an approval. By design, we don't really have a specific standard for that. In the absence of that guidance, the team kept creating short pages; it took me a long time to convince them to stop, and to focus on filling out complete pages instead.
They have now started to do that, and have a core of pages in areas of specific interest to the community of Guiane that are filled out and up to quality standards. They are continuing to work on that. But enough stubs were created early in the game that from a ratio perspective, it would take the team a long time to get to what we'd ordinarily prefer to see. Now, I have been working with this team regularly for a long while—probably at least two years. They feel they have worked hard, but they are getting anxious. I firmly believe that if this test is approved, the team will continue to work on the project, and will be able to recruit additional contributors. I am concerned that if we say no—particularly if I am not able to give specific guidance on how many "complete" pages are enough—they are going to give up and walk away.
Let me add: the stubs are not junk. They're just stubs. The team has worked hard to do the right thing all along, and their focus is in a good place now. Thank you for your consideration.
Steven
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Hoi, Given that a number of pages are verified, I am all for it. Thanks, GerardM
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 16:23, Steven White Koala19890@hotmail.com wrote:
I am proposing approval of the Guianan Creole Wikipedia https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/gcr. It has ticked off all the boxes it needs to tick off: active community, interface translation, reasonable number of pages.
The one potential problem with this test is that the ratio of articles to stubs is low. (That is, it has a lot of stubs, compared to quality articles.) The reason for this is that the small, but enthusiastic, team working on the test project kept wanting some guidance from LangCom as to how much content was needed in order to get an approval. By design, we don't really have a specific standard for that. In the absence of that guidance, the team kept creating short pages; it took me a long time to convince them to stop, and to focus on filling out complete pages instead.
They have now started to do that, and have a core of pages in areas of specific interest to the community of Guiane that are filled out and up to quality standards. They are continuing to work on that. But enough stubs were created early in the game that from a ratio perspective, it would take the team a long time to get to what we'd ordinarily prefer to see. Now, I have been working with this team regularly for a long while—probably at least two years. They feel they have worked hard, but they are getting anxious. I firmly believe that if this test is approved, the team will continue to work on the project, and will be able to recruit additional contributors. I am concerned that if we say no—particularly if I am not able to give specific guidance on how many "complete" pages are enough—they are going to give up and walk away.
Let me add: the stubs are not junk. They're just stubs. The team has worked hard to do the right thing all along, and their focus is in a good place now. Thank you for your consideration.
Steven
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The activity definitely looks good, so I'm not opposed to approving it, but more than ever I'd like to hear an expert's approval. It's the usual practice, but I had particular difficulty finding any information online about this language.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
בתאריך יום ג׳, 11 בדצמ׳ 2018 ב-17:23 מאת Steven White < Koala19890@hotmail.com>:
I am proposing approval of the Guianan Creole Wikipedia https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/gcr. It has ticked off all the boxes it needs to tick off: active community, interface translation, reasonable number of pages.
The one potential problem with this test is that the ratio of articles to stubs is low. (That is, it has a lot of stubs, compared to quality articles.) The reason for this is that the small, but enthusiastic, team working on the test project kept wanting some guidance from LangCom as to how much content was needed in order to get an approval. By design, we don't really have a specific standard for that. In the absence of that guidance, the team kept creating short pages; it took me a long time to convince them to stop, and to focus on filling out complete pages instead.
They have now started to do that, and have a core of pages in areas of specific interest to the community of Guiane that are filled out and up to quality standards. They are continuing to work on that. But enough stubs were created early in the game that from a ratio perspective, it would take the team a long time to get to what we'd ordinarily prefer to see. Now, I have been working with this team regularly for a long while—probably at least two years. They feel they have worked hard, but they are getting anxious. I firmly believe that if this test is approved, the team will continue to work on the project, and will be able to recruit additional contributors. I am concerned that if we say no—particularly if I am not able to give specific guidance on how many "complete" pages are enough—they are going to give up and walk away.
Let me add: the stubs are not junk. They're just stubs. The team has worked hard to do the right thing all along, and their focus is in a good place now. Thank you for your consideration.
Steven
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On 11 Dec 2018, at 15:46, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
The activity definitely looks good, so I'm not opposed to approving it, but more than ever I'd like to hear an expert's approval. It's the usual practice, but I had particular difficulty finding any information online about this language.
I read a few paragraphs. It is decipherable if you have French. Having seen a good many dialect Alices, I’ll say it looks quite authentic.
Michael