I'm happy to wait for your proposal, Amir. Still, if there is something that is going
to require LangCom approval, there needs to be something in the proposal that compels
LangCom to act within a reasonable time frame. Yes, we're volunteers, but so are the
people who are creating the projects in Incubator (etc.), and they deserve not to have to
wait a year.
I will also add that as long as I'm not so frustrated with the system that I can stay
active, I do watch the active tests on Incubator. Yes, it's possible for me to be
fooled by a hoax, as I don't usually read the languages involved. Still, as long as
Incubator/Beta/Old Wikisource are being monitored, it needs to be a pretty robust hoax on
the concerted part of a reasonable number of contributors in order to make it all the way
to the point of approvability.
Finally, then, is the tradeoff between avoiding hoaxes and being responsive to new-project
communities. The chances that such a community is a good-faith community that is being
hurt by delay are probably much greater than the chances that such a community is a hoax
community. So while I think we need a chance for our due diligence, we should not be
allowed an arbitrarily long time to do that due diligence, either.
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From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
Subject: Re: [Langcom] Proposed amendment to LPP (was: Final approval
for four projects)
No verification at all and simply assuming good faith after some arbitrary
time is asking for trouble. There already were cases of hoaxes in the past.
Not many cases, but they did happen, and we're talking about a whole site,
even one case is major trouble.
HOWEVER, I absolutely do recognize that we have unnecessary and harmful
bottlenecks in the approval process, and because of that I'm working on
another proposal that will ease up at least some of these bottlenecks.
I've just came back from Wikimania, and I'm immediately going for a
vacation until the end of August, but after that—expect surprises,
hopefully good ones.
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי