I think this needs some discussion. I'm not really excited about it, but I think you could convince me.
2017-02-08 2:13 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com:
Gerard and I were talking today about this issue. Here is the proposal to be added into the LPP if accepted. Gerard's parts are related to the traditional LangCom requirements, my parts are about the organizations. Feel free to fix my English, add whatever you think it's important for the amendment itself etc. (Asaf, Carlos, you are encouraged to give your input in relation to the organizational part.)
Note that this proposal assumes that both Wikimedia and non-Wikimedia organizations would be able to propose a project for fast approval.
Fast approval assumes that the Language committee would approve previously eligible first Wikimedia project in particular language under certain conditions without necessity for the project to pass the process inside of Incubator (which usually lasts at least six months, but likely a couple of years).
I'm surprised that your proposal is to restrict it to the first project. Haven't such ideas come up in the past more frequently for Wikisource, when a Wikipedia already existed? (I recall some things proposed by Gerard).
The main condition for fast approval is officially expressed support by particular organization, which would guarantee that the project would be viable for the next two years.
Does that mean the organisation should commit to edit the project? And what if it doesn't do what it guaranteed?
Organization has to have the following attributes:
- Officially incorporated organization inside of the country where
significant population of speakers of the target language live.
- Annual and strategic plan.
- Track record of successfully finished projects.
- Commitment to transparent work.
To do that, organization has to do the following:
- Translate 500 most common MediaWiki messages in the target language
to immediately show its commitment. (NOTE: I think that few hours of translation job is reasonable immediate requirement; we could discuss about it.)
- Present to the Language committee the proposal for the project. That
could be a program of editathons in particular area, targeting speakers of one or more languages without any Wikimedia project.
- Give formal guarantee that the Wikimedia-related work with
particular linguistic group will last at least two years.
With these requirements, it doesn't sound too bad. However, when I think of chapters (or whatever) working together with a community to start a new Wikipedia, I always think of the Minangkabau Wikipedia, which started with some action (editathon maybe, I don't remember) from Wikimedia Indonesia, and which quickly got a highly active community, and was approved in record time (three months in Incubator, I think). Doesn't simply proving that the proposed project is good by achieving such an activity in Incubator sound better than first battling around with Langcom about the plan?