Langcom February 2018

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Wiktionary requests dating to the second half of 2011
by Steven White 28 Feb '18

28 Feb '18

There are three such requests, and I am going to mark each of them eligible: Wiktionary Emilian<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Emili…> (egl): I would remind you that the former code for "Emilian-Romagnol (eml)" was retired and split in 2009. Wiktionary Romagnol was marked eligible in November 2017, and this project is eligible, too. Question of what to do about the current Wikipedia in Emilian-Romagnol is not directly relevant. Wiktionary Rusyn<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Rusyn> (rue): The Wikipedia in this language was created in 2011. The Wiktionary project's request page does outline issues that have arisen at the Wikipedia. And the Wiktionary has been pretty dormant since 2011. But there are about 25 pages there, and the Wikipedia seems to be active. So this test is eligible, and will be marked that way. Wiktionary Assamese<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Assam…> (as): Project was closed and exported to Incubator in 2008 due to inactivity and spambots. There is no reason this test should not be eligible. Steven Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

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Re: [Langcom] Basque Wikisource
by Steven White 28 Feb '18

28 Feb '18

Of course. I'm simply reluctant to post the formal Meta notification to overlap with LangCom's seven-day comment period if I think there is a serious risk of an objection slowing things down. Steven Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> ________________________________ From: Langcom <langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 4:49 PM To: langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Langcom Digest, Vol 53, Issue 26 Send Langcom mailing list submissions to langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at langcom-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Basque Wikisource (MF-Warburg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:49:55 +0100 From: MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Basque Wikisource Message-ID: <CAJKMOMW4W8cfr0_-qXBN+AdqyxCHjihe8xEsL3N=-J2qo8cDBw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I dont expect that, but one week still needs to be waited. But it's perfectly reasonable to already make the announcement on Meta (as you did). Am 27.02.2018 5:03 vorm. schrieb "Steven White" <koala19890(a)hotmail.com>: Does anyone think there will be an Committee objection on this? I think I will also post the final public notice for this one. (Will do both in the morning my time.) Steven White ------------------------------ *From:* Langcom <langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> *Sent:* Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:00:06 AM *To:* langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Langcom Digest, Vol 53, Issue 22 Send Langcom mailing list submissions to langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% 2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata= cBKn6b4SnnmVyqNxJMeXRm15PxSExBKkXq3pgjxTL7k%3D&reserved=0 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at langcom-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Approval of Basque Wikisource (Jon Harald Søby) 2. Re: Approval of Basque Wikisource (Gerard Meijssen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:17:37 +0100 From: Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Approval of Basque Wikisource Message-ID: <CAJLFb6VtaqhYot-gam0PqfJc9RzetQsOudz97X_bvQvxH0v6pQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" +1 as well 2018-02-23 18:04 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_stegen(a)sil.org>: > +1 from me > > > Oliver > > On 23-Feb-18 17:02, Steven White wrote: > > Links: > > Language request: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_&data=02%7C01%7C% 7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata=68shH64xWCwScYjNFRLKGz%2Fie% 2BixsV0TiEzsdK66nrs%3D&reserved=0 > for_new_languages/Wikisource_Basque > > Project: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Fwikisource.org%2Fwiki%2FCategory%3AEuskara&data=02%7C01%7C% 7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata=IvbXR%2F7LTXB1LK8% 2FlTFRTDmGeZeKsLKm6mfd0ggYO6E%3D&reserved=0 > > Discussion: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTalk&data=02%7C01%7C% 7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata=8iMSrA43IFvYi%2F64H2jFymn2% 2FNxAnzudbhfTO4pNVW0%3D&reserved=0: > Language_committee#Basque_Wikisource > > > This seems to be ready to go. Activity and interface translation are fine. > The page count is not straightforward, as there is a large number of pages > not in the main category of the language. But as you can see from the > discussion, (a) there are actually several hundred content pages in this > test, and (b) there is ongoing support activity going on in the community. > I think this would be a good approval. Starting initial seven-day clock > now. > > > Steven > > Sent from Outlook <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= http%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fweboutlook&data=02%7C01%7C% 7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata=YWRehvGogqQlHv0LZXMSBXut1XwYM8 %2B47DC7KSEj5Aw%3D&reserved=0> > > > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Femail-signature%3Futm_ medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content% 3Demailclient&data=02%7C01%7C%7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata= PpErHQaDmKhXBS%2BYNV8z%2F0fgpwyvJMrx6hGs%2FHAesjU%3D&reserved=0> Virus-free. > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avg.com&data=02%7C0… 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata= jcbMBtuJoYxXZtiDEdUEp8uaLz%2F3bpegylLhjnPfmhQ%3D&reserved=0 > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Femail-signature%3Futm_ medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content% 3Demailclient&data=02%7C01%7C%7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata= PpErHQaDmKhXBS%2BYNV8z%2F0fgpwyvJMrx6hGs%2FHAesjU%3D&reserved=0> > <#m_8220250178946060509_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing listLangcom@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia. org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% 2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C300acf87bf4a4d13b08908d57b7e57ec% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636550704926185090&sdata= cBKn6b4SnnmVyqNxJMeXRm15PxSExBKkXq3pgjxTL7k%3D&reserved=0 > > -- mvh Jon Harald Søby

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Re: [Langcom] Eligibility for translatewiki localization
by Steven White 28 Feb '18

28 Feb '18

I haven't heard any objections with respect to Montenegrin on translatewiki.net—even if Language Committee decisions apply there, which I personally doubt. With respect to Ancash Quechua, the question here is about an evolving standard that the Ecuadorian government is supporting on Ecuadorian varieties of Quechua. (See the page you cited below.) The communities (such as they are) have agreed to consolidate on Incubator using that evolving standard and the langcode qwh. It's not, after all, that it's very likely that a separate community is going to want to localize in the specific, pure variety "Huaylas Ancash Quechua" in addition. So I think you're fine. On the whole, as far as translatewiki.net goes, I think the approach should be, "When in doubt, include it." Steven Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> ________________________________ From: Langcom <langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:00 AM To: langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Langcom Digest, Vol 53, Issue 18 Send Langcom mailing list submissions to langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at langcom-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Eligibility for translatewiki localization (Amir E. Aharoni) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 11:36:27 +0200 From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Langcom] Eligibility for translatewiki localization Message-ID: <CACtNa8vP4NhedO+y10EwyqQ8nDKetR8nnr8E65ygoz5OpQZKrA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, There's something that I had to consider several times recently: If there are doubts about a language's eligibility for having its own Wikipedia, but it does have an ISO code, is there any reason to deny translation into it in translatewiki? More precisely: The language definitely passes criterion 2 in "Requisites for eligibility" [1] ("The language must have a valid ISO 639 1–3 code"), but there is no conclusive decision about whether it passes criterion 3 ("The language must be sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki"). Example 1: Montenegrin (cnr), which was discussed lately, and about which most of the Language committee seems to have the opinion that it doesn't pass criterion 3. Example 2: Ancash Quechua (qwh). There is some discussion about it at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wiki… , but I cannot find any discussion by committee members (other than Steven). (I don't have an opinion about it myself, and I'm not opposed to marking it as eligible.) Example 3: Dari (prs). This was already rejected by the committee with an explanation similar to Montenegrin, but it is already enabled in translatewiki. (Curiously, translatewiki also has Zoroastrian Dari [gbz]; I'm not sure why, but I'm not really opposed to it.) I'd say that in such cases, localization in translatewiki should usually be allowed. In translatewiki we have English, UK English, and Canadian English; German and Formal German (Sie); Hungarian and Formal Hungarian. If these are eligible for translatewiki, then I'd say that cnr and qwh are eligible for translatewiki, because both seem to have at least some differences from related languages. Of course, there's the question of whether Language Committee decisions apply to translatewiki at all, given that it's not really a Wikimedia project, but it's probably legitimate to at least express an opinion. [1] https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wiki… -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faharoni.wo… ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik…> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik… ------------------------------ End of Langcom Digest, Vol 53, Issue 18 ***************************************

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Re: [Langcom] Basque Wikisource
by Steven White 27 Feb '18

27 Feb '18

Does anyone think there will be an Committee objection on this? I think I will also post the final public notice for this one. (Will do both in the morning my time.) Steven White ________________________________ From: Langcom <langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 7:00:06 AM To: langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Langcom Digest, Vol 53, Issue 22 Send Langcom mailing list submissions to langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at langcom-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Approval of Basque Wikisource (Jon Harald Søby) 2. Re: Approval of Basque Wikisource (Gerard Meijssen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:17:37 +0100 From: Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Approval of Basque Wikisource Message-ID: <CAJLFb6VtaqhYot-gam0PqfJc9RzetQsOudz97X_bvQvxH0v6pQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" +1 as well 2018-02-23 18:04 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_stegen(a)sil.org>: > +1 from me > > > Oliver > > On 23-Feb-18 17:02, Steven White wrote: > > Links: > > Language request: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wiki… > for_new_languages/Wikisource_Basque > > Project: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwikisourc… > > Discussion: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wiki…: > Language_committee#Basque_Wikisource > > > This seems to be ready to go. Activity and interface translation are fine. > The page count is not straightforward, as there is a large number of pages > not in the main category of the language. But as you can see from the > discussion, (a) there are actually several hundred content pages in this > test, and (b) there is ongoing support activity going on in the community. > I think this would be a good approval. Starting initial seven-day clock > now. > > > Steven > > Sent from Outlook <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fw…> > > > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.co…> Virus-free. > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avg.com&data=02%7C0… > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.co…> > <#m_8220250178946060509_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing listLangcom@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik… > > -- mvh Jon Harald Søby

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Re: [Langcom] Gorontalo Wikipedia
by Steven White 27 Feb '18

27 Feb '18

Posting final public notice at Meta (because we haven't done that yet). Steven White ________________________________ From: Langcom <langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 3:23:41 PM To: langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Langcom Digest, Vol 53, Issue 23 Send Langcom mailing list submissions to langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at langcom-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mostly routine disposition of requests dating to 2011 (MF-Warburg) 2. Gorontalo Wikipedia (MF-Warburg) 3. Re: Gorontalo Wikipedia (Amir E. Aharoni) 4. Re: Gorontalo Wikipedia (Oliver Stegen) 5. Re: Gorontalo Wikipedia (Gerard Meijssen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 19:45:38 +0100 From: MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Mostly routine disposition of requests dating to 2011 Message-ID: <CAJKMOMUYsuOoTPgSuRmSzQ3B8nkEW2JhN9NqgKW7U-UGLZYfVw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Wikisource Wawa > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wiki…>: > I'd actually like some advice on this one. (I suspect that this request was > created because of the language's "unique" langcode—www—though at the time > Milos proposed that it would be encoded with its proposed ISO 639–6 code, > "wxwa", for technical reasons.) > > > There is no evidence that anyone ever added any content for this in > multilingual Wikisource, and the request page expresses doubt that there > are many published, public-domain works in Wawa to publish here. On the > other hand, this request is for Wikisource, and there's no reason that if > someone has even one eligible work, it can't live on multilingual > Wikisource forever anyway. Thoughts: Mark eligible? Close as stale? I just > don't really want to leave it as "on hold" because it is so old. > Stale.

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Gorontalo Wikipedia
by MF-Warburg 26 Feb '18

26 Feb '18

Dear colleagues, Suleman Bouti from Universitas Negeri Gorontalo answered my request for content verification and confirmed that the content of the Gorontalo test-project on Incubator is in fact written in the correct language. He also informed me that the language has no written standard, but I guess that should not be an obstacle. I therefore propose to approve this project. MF-W

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Mostly routine disposition of requests dating to 2011
by Steven White 26 Feb '18

26 Feb '18

I am going to start running through the requests that date to 2011. This first set consists of all of the requests that are NOT Wikipedia or Wiktionary, along with one Wiktionary request. Wikibooks Dusun<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikibooks_Dusun>, Wikinews Dusun<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Dusun>, and Wiktionary Dusun<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Dusun> (langcode dtp): Language of 140,000 speakers in Malaysia. Wikipedia request was marked eligible in 2011, and both Wikipedia and Wiktionary tests have a decent handful of pages each. The other two tests have only a couple of pages each, but I see no reason not to mark all of these as eligible, and will do so. Wikinews Western Panjabi<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Western…> (langcode pnb): Wikipedia and Wiktionary already exist. Test has a handful of pages. Certainly eligible, and I will mark it so. Wikinews Central Kurdish (Sorani)<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Kurdish…> (langcode ckb): Wikipedia already exists. Test has a few pages. Certainly eligible, and I will mark it so. Wikiquote Kashubian<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiquote_Kashub…> (langcode csb): Wikipedia and Wiktionary already exist, but no test was ever created at Incubator. I propose to close as stale. If someone ever starts a test and puts in a new request, it will be eligible, and I will say so in closing this request. Wikisource Wawa<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Wawa>: I'd actually like some advice on this one. (I suspect that this request was created because of the language's "unique" langcode—www—though at the time Milos proposed that it would be encoded with its proposed ISO 639–6 code, "wxwa", for technical reasons.) There is no evidence that anyone ever added any content for this in multilingual Wikisource, and the request page expresses doubt that there are many published, public-domain works in Wawa to publish here. On the other hand, this request is for Wikisource, and there's no reason that if someone has even one eligible work, it can't live on multilingual Wikisource forever anyway. Thoughts: Mark eligible? Close as stale? I just don't really want to leave it as "on hold" because it is so old. Steven Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

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Approval of Basque Wikisource
by Steven White 23 Feb '18

23 Feb '18

Links: Language request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Basque Project: https://wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Euskara Discussion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#Basque_Wikisource This seems to be ready to go. Activity and interface translation are fine. The page count is not straightforward, as there is a large number of pages not in the main category of the language. But as you can see from the discussion, (a) there are actually several hundred content pages in this test, and (b) there is ongoing support activity going on in the community. I think this would be a good approval. Starting initial seven-day clock now. Steven Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

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Wiktionary requests (plus one related Wikipedia request) dating to the first half of 2011
by Steven White 23 Feb '18

23 Feb '18

Wiktionary Melanau<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Melan…> (langcode mel): Proposer created one page (in English) on Incubator in 2011, then left. (That page was subsequently deleted as "wrong language".) Propose to close as stale. Wiktionary Bhojpuri<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Bhojp…> (langcode bho): Healthy, active test, clearly eligible, and I will mark it so. * Only issue going forward will be that Bhojpuri Wikipedia is coded as bh, which is an ISO 639-2 collective code for Bihari languages (a collection that includes Bhojpuri). (Task for changing Wikipedia is T41968<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41968>.) Wiktionary Nogai<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Nogai> (and Wikipedia Nogai<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Nogai>) (langcode nog): The Wp test on Incubator has recently returned to activity, but a Wiktionary test was never started. The only really active member of the Wikipedia test community has told me he has no intention of working on a Wiktionary now. Will mark Wikipedia eligible and will close Wiktionary as stale. Wiktionary Hawaiian<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Hawai…> (langcode haw): Test has recently returned to activity. Clearly eligible. Wiktionary Sri Lankan Creole Malay<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Sri_L…> (langcode sci): Mostly an oral language; enwiki article describes attempts to write the language as "rare". Proposer never followed up, but still seems active on enwiki. Have queried this user and will report any response later. Steven Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

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Re: [Langcom] Eligibility for translatewiki localization
by Steven White 21 Feb '18

21 Feb '18

It seems to me that translatewiki is supporting other projects and clients besides WMF. If even one may potentially allow such codes, they have to be allowed on translatewiki. Steven White

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