Langcom December 2015

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Western Balochi
by Amir E. Aharoni 06 May '17

06 May '17

Hi, I received a few requests to check the status of Western Balochi incubator (bgn). The code bgn is legit, the translation of most-used messages is complete, and the activity in the incubator is reasonable. A lot of pages are written; many are just one or two lines long, but I don't think that I mind. Do we want to verify that it's the right language? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Request for approval Western Balochi Wikipedia
by Ibrahim Baloch 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

Western Balochi has active for few months, and have more 5000 articles. 1- https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&language=bgn&grou… 2- https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/bgn&wik… 3- https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/bgn/بُنیادی_تاکدیم -- Ибрахим Белудж

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Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval
by Amir E. Aharoni 09 Jan '16

09 Jan '16

Hi, I suggest to approve the Adyghe (Circassian) Wikipedia. The code is ady. It is the language of the Republic of Adygea in Russia, also spoken by communities of Adyghe (or Circassian) people in other countries, including Turkey, Israel and others. It is closely related to, but distinct from Kabardian (kbd), in which there already is a Wikipedia. It started in Incubator and translatewiki years ago, but there was very little activity. In the last few months several users started making a lot of edits in both Incubator and translatewiki. The most used message in translatewiki are complete [1]. There is activity in the Incubator [2]. See below for a forwarded email from Zoher Thawcho of the Circassian Cultural Centre in Kfar-Kama (Israel), in which he approves that the articles in ady.wikipedia are written in the correct language. Let's approve it. [1] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=!translated&action=… [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/ady&wik… -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Amir Aharoni <aaharoni(a)wikimedia.org> Date: 2015-11-30 22:24 GMT+02:00 Subject: Fwd: Circassian Wikipedia To: Amir Aharoni ‫‎<amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>‎‬ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Circassian Museum <info(a)circassianmuseum.co.il> Date: 2015-11-28 17:53 GMT+02:00 Subject: Circassian Wikipedia To: ‫aaharoni@wikimedia.org‬ Hi Amir, I hereby confirm that I have read a few paragraphs about the Circassians Wikipedia values, and acknowledge that the language they are written in standard Circassian. all the best, Zoher Thawcho -- Amir Elisha Aharoni‏ ። אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי Language Engineering‏ ። הַנְדָּסָה לְשׁוֹנִית Wikimedia Foundation‏ ። קֶרֶן וִיקִימֶדְיָה

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Re: [Langcom] Requests for New Languages - Pages Missing
by MF-Warburg 29 Dec '15

29 Dec '15

Ah well. That table merely links to these pages by default, because that is the place where such a request would be, if someone would create one. 2015-12-29 20:01 GMT+01:00 Eddie Avila <eddieavilagv(a)gmail.com>: > I arrived from here: > > https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Wikis > > > On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:49 PM, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > These pages never existed. Where did you get the link to them? > Am 29.12.2015 17:18 schrieb "Eddie Avila" <eddieavilagv(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hello - >> >> I wanted to ask if someone could help me better understand why some pages >> from the requests for new languages come up with this message: >> >> This page doesn't currently exist; you can search this title >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/Requests_for_new_languages/W…> >> in other pages or edit this page >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wik…>. >> >> >> - If you recently created this page, try purging the server cache >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wik…> >> or searching the deletion log >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&page=R…> >> . >> >> For example: >> >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tzotzil >> >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancash… >> >> Does this mean that there was a request at one time? Or that they were >> incomplete requests? Any help to allow me to better understand some of the >> processes behind these requests and who is making them. I am really >> interested in how incubator projects are developed. >> >> Thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> >

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Requests for New Languages - Pages Missing
by Eddie Avila 29 Dec '15

29 Dec '15

Hello - I wanted to ask if someone could help me better understand why some pages from the requests for new languages come up with this message: This page doesn't currently exist; you can search this title <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/Requests_for_new_languages/W…> in other pages or edit this page <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wik…>. If you recently created this page, try purging the server cache <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wik…> or searching the deletion log <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&page=R…>. For example: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tzotzil <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tzotzil> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancash… <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancash…> Does this mean that there was a request at one time? Or that they were incomplete requests? Any help to allow me to better understand some of the processes behind these requests and who is making them. I am really interested in how incubator projects are developed. Thanks!

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Re: [Langcom] Language Subtag Registration
by Michael Everson 29 Dec '15

29 Dec '15

LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM 1. Name of requester: Michael Everson 2. E-mail address of requester: everson @ evertype.com 3. Record Requested: Type: variant Subtag: wpsimple Description: Wikipedia Simple English Prefix: en 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: The subtag is intended to represent the controlled language used on http://simple.wikipedia.org. This language is a mix of Basic English, VOA Special English, and some more guidelines. 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): Wikipedia:Simple English Wikipedia https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_English_Wikipedia Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pag… 6. Any other relevant information: Problem: The Simple English Wikipedia uses "simple" for the domain (simple.wikipedia.org) and "en" for its language. This is a problem because: * The domain is different from the language code. * The language code is the same as in the English Wikipedia. These two problems definitely create several issues for the ContentTranslation extension and possibly other components. It's possible to work around them, but it's better to straighten things out by changing the language code. This will lead to en-wpsimple.wikipedia.org

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Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource
by Milos Rancic 29 Dec '15

29 Dec '15

Hey! Brute from Georgia asked me what's the issue with the request for Georgian Wikisource. I suppose others are better introduced into it. BTW, I think we should approve Wikisource requests in fast forward manner, as it means we'd get more PD texts sooner. Something like "you get Wikisource for the "price" of the first project". On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Sandro Gambashidze <gambasha777(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Millosh! I'm user BRUTE from Georgia. I'm writing to you regarding > the Georgian wikisource. Long time ago it was recognized as an eligible > project on meta-wiki but it is still away from running. Can you please tell > us what procedures should we make and is it all about translating mediawiki > messages again? Thanks... >

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a language code for Simple English
by Amir E. Aharoni 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Hi, A question for the respected language code experts in the audience. Apparently, the Simple English Wikipedia uses "en" as its language code in the HTML lang attribute, etc. I never noticed it until recently, when it started causing various bugs with the ContentTranslation extension of which I am a developer. I somehow assumed that it uses something like "en-simple" without ever checking it, and that assumption was wrong - it's just "en". I believe that the code should be different from what is used by the English Wikipedia, like it is with other wikis in language variants, such as be-tarask. Do you have any suggestions about what code should it be? en-simple? en-x-simple? Something else? Should I register anything new with any standards organization? (If I recall correctly, this was done for be-tarask?) Can I reuse any existing code that would be appropriate? Is it a bad idea in general and it should be just "en"? Thanks! (PS: If you're curious what are the issues, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110190 ) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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