Langcom November 2015

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Western Balochi
by Amir E. Aharoni 07 May '17

07 May '17

Hi, I received a few requests to check the status of Western Balochi incubator (bgn). The code bgn is legit, the translation of most-used messages is complete, and the activity in the incubator is reasonable. A lot of pages are written; many are just one or two lines long, but I don't think that I mind. Do we want to verify that it's the right language? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval
by Amir E. Aharoni 10 Jan '16

10 Jan '16

Hi, I suggest to approve the Adyghe (Circassian) Wikipedia. The code is ady. It is the language of the Republic of Adygea in Russia, also spoken by communities of Adyghe (or Circassian) people in other countries, including Turkey, Israel and others. It is closely related to, but distinct from Kabardian (kbd), in which there already is a Wikipedia. It started in Incubator and translatewiki years ago, but there was very little activity. In the last few months several users started making a lot of edits in both Incubator and translatewiki. The most used message in translatewiki are complete [1]. There is activity in the Incubator [2]. See below for a forwarded email from Zoher Thawcho of the Circassian Cultural Centre in Kfar-Kama (Israel), in which he approves that the articles in ady.wikipedia are written in the correct language. Let's approve it. [1] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=!translated&action=… [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/ady&wik… -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Amir Aharoni <aaharoni(a)wikimedia.org> Date: 2015-11-30 22:24 GMT+02:00 Subject: Fwd: Circassian Wikipedia To: Amir Aharoni ‫‎<amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>‎‬ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Circassian Museum <info(a)circassianmuseum.co.il> Date: 2015-11-28 17:53 GMT+02:00 Subject: Circassian Wikipedia To: ‫aaharoni@wikimedia.org‬ Hi Amir, I hereby confirm that I have read a few paragraphs about the Circassians Wikipedia values, and acknowledge that the language they are written in standard Circassian. all the best, Zoher Thawcho -- Amir Elisha Aharoni‏ ። אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי Language Engineering‏ ። הַנְדָּסָה לְשׁוֹנִית Wikimedia Foundation‏ ። קֶרֶן וִיקִימֶדְיָה

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Re: [Langcom] Language Subtag Registration
by Michael Everson 29 Dec '15

29 Dec '15

LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM 1. Name of requester: Michael Everson 2. E-mail address of requester: everson @ evertype.com 3. Record Requested: Type: variant Subtag: wpsimple Description: Wikipedia Simple English Prefix: en 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: The subtag is intended to represent the controlled language used on http://simple.wikipedia.org. This language is a mix of Basic English, VOA Special English, and some more guidelines. 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): Wikipedia:Simple English Wikipedia https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_English_Wikipedia Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pag… 6. Any other relevant information: Problem: The Simple English Wikipedia uses "simple" for the domain (simple.wikipedia.org) and "en" for its language. This is a problem because: * The domain is different from the language code. * The language code is the same as in the English Wikipedia. These two problems definitely create several issues for the ContentTranslation extension and possibly other components. It's possible to work around them, but it's better to straighten things out by changing the language code. This will lead to en-wpsimple.wikipedia.org

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Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource
by Milos Rancic 29 Dec '15

29 Dec '15

Hey! Brute from Georgia asked me what's the issue with the request for Georgian Wikisource. I suppose others are better introduced into it. BTW, I think we should approve Wikisource requests in fast forward manner, as it means we'd get more PD texts sooner. Something like "you get Wikisource for the "price" of the first project". On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Sandro Gambashidze <gambasha777(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Millosh! I'm user BRUTE from Georgia. I'm writing to you regarding > the Georgian wikisource. Long time ago it was recognized as an eligible > project on meta-wiki but it is still away from running. Can you please tell > us what procedures should we make and is it all about translating mediawiki > messages again? Thanks... >

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a language code for Simple English
by Amir E. Aharoni 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Hi, A question for the respected language code experts in the audience. Apparently, the Simple English Wikipedia uses "en" as its language code in the HTML lang attribute, etc. I never noticed it until recently, when it started causing various bugs with the ContentTranslation extension of which I am a developer. I somehow assumed that it uses something like "en-simple" without ever checking it, and that assumption was wrong - it's just "en". I believe that the code should be different from what is used by the English Wikipedia, like it is with other wikis in language variants, such as be-tarask. Do you have any suggestions about what code should it be? en-simple? en-x-simple? Something else? Should I register anything new with any standards organization? (If I recall correctly, this was done for be-tarask?) Can I reuse any existing code that would be appropriate? Is it a bad idea in general and it should be just "en"? Thanks! (PS: If you're curious what are the issues, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110190 ) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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a language code for Simple English, part 2
by Amir E. Aharoni 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

Hi, Trying to revive this discussion, because the previous one got stuck. Problem: The Simple English Wikipedia uses "simple" for the domain ( simple.wikipedia.org ) and "en" for its language. This is a problem because: * The domain is different from the language code. * The language code is the same as in the English Wikipedia. These two problems definitely create several issues for the ContentTranslation extension and possibly other components. It's possible to work around them, but it's better to straighten things out by changing the language code. The last time I tried to bring this up some people thought that I am proposing to create a new top-level ISO 639-3 language code for it, but this is definitely not my intention. Rather, I suggest to go forward with something like "en-simple". The language in question is a variant of another one, so a subtag makes sense, but I'd love it to be standardized. Should it be proposed as a new entry to the IANA language subtag registry? I couldn't find anything appropriate at http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-re… and I am not familiar with the proposal process. Is "en-simple" a good suggestion? Or should be something like "en-wpsimple", like "en-oxendict" (an actually registered variant of Oxford English dictionary)? If I recall correctly, Wikipedians already got be-tarask registered successfully, so this sounds possible to do, but I'd love your advice before going forward. Thank you! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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