Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier <laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch
wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French ( http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
It looks really interesting. I went straight to Spanish version but a pass is required. Are there plans to open other languages?
Great job so far!!
Hi! I think it can be interesting for all to join this project to Wikimedia, to promote it and make versions for other languages than french. To my mind, this project contributors made a good job. I can help you to make a Wikimini in Latvian (I contribute to MediaWiki translation to Latvian, so I know it very well).
Jean-Marc Gailis Ubuntu Latvian Translator Wikipedia Fan and contributor "Think Global, Make Locales."
2013/4/18 Erlan Vega alhen.wiki@gmail.com
It looks really interesting. I went straight to Spanish version but a pass is required. Are there plans to open other languages?
Great job so far!!
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Hi Everyone,
Thank you for your nice comments which are very much appreciated.
Given the success of the French version with children in general in the French-speaking countries (in schools and out-of-school), launching new language versions of Wikimini has become one of our most desirable goals. And I can tell you that we have been working very hard to that end for the last 12 months, in particular on adapting our technical infrastructure in ways that will allow the creation of new language versions of Wikimini. And I'm grateful to add that we have been offered the financial support from Wikimedia CH to facilitate this.
Basically all the necessary technical framework is in place. At the moment, there are already 4 individuals involved (or interested) in the creation of a Spanish, Italian and Arabic version of the project but I have to admit that this is not an easy task for a single person. Therefore I would be very glad to discuss this in more detail with people (or organisations) interested in launching and coordinating (or simply taking part in or promoting) a new version of Wikimini in their own language.
Please, feel free to drop me an email (info@wikimini.org or laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch) and I promise that I will do my very best to help you and maybe put you in touch with other interested people!
Sorry for my limited English. My mother tongue is French. However feel free to write to me in Portuguese, German, English and Italian (or French, which would be perfect of course!).
Laurent *http://wikimini.org*
P.S. You can find a short description of the project in English here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids/Review_of_current_existing_wikis_aki... (with a few other projects, which are both very similar in some regards, and very different in other aspects, and thus not easy to compare). Perhaps the most relevant features of Wikimini lies in the fact that it is written by children and that the project all belongs to them. On Wikimini we like to say that we are recruiting and forming the tomorrow's Wikipedians! :-) It's a long way to go, but it's surely worth it!
2013/4/18 Jean-Marc Gailis jeanmarc.gailis@gmail.com
Hi! I think it can be interesting for all to join this project to Wikimedia, to promote it and make versions for other languages than french. To my mind, this project contributors made a good job. I can help you to make a Wikimini in Latvian (I contribute to MediaWiki translation to Latvian, so I know it very well).
Jean-Marc Gailis Ubuntu Latvian Translator Wikipedia Fan and contributor "Think Global, Make Locales."
2013/4/18 Erlan Vega alhen.wiki@gmail.com
It looks really interesting. I went straight to Spanish version but a pass is required. Are there plans to open other languages?
Great job so far!!
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Hi,
Message du 18/04/13 20:04 De : "Jean-Marc Gailis" A : "Wikimedia Education" Copie à : Objet : Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
Hi!I think it can be interesting for all to join this project to Wikimedia, to promote it and make versions for other languages than french.
Well, let's work on the proposal: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids However it is about Vikidia, which content is more developed. ( http://fr.vikidia.org ) Article are longer as on Wikimini, but still children readers on the "Livre d'or" (guestbook) often ask for more content http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Livre_d%27or
2013/4/18 Erlan Vega
It looks really interesting. I went straight to Spanish version but a pass is required. Are there plans to open other languages?
Great job so far!!
Vikidia in spanish in opened right now, and it once had a good (but small) contributors group. http://es.vikidia.org/ Its content is still here, and it needs a new community. The adoption as a sister project could help, you can drop your name on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids#People_interested to support it, Wikimedia France just decided to do so. :-)
Mathias Damour
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How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
_______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult had tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a case on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults* *are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal on the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component of Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many other
community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat systems, message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier < laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French ( http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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Hey,
Having been involved in the Dutch Wikikids project over the past years (full disclosure: this is a small part of my work for the Kennisnet Foundation which supports this initiative) I can tell you a little more about it.
Wikikids is run by a small foundation which has 5 trustees (who are all educators). They have 12889 articles and over 9000 pictures. They get about 3,5 million website visits a year. An important part is that they feel that the writing of the article by kids is actually a way for them to learn. While the end result is also important, the writing and improving is at least of equal (if not higher) importance.
The english page on the project is here:
http://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:English_explanation
(I am not sure but I think one or two of the founders might be on this mailing list, but probably not actively following it)
Jan-Bart
On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult had tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a case on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal on the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component of Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many other community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat systems, message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote: Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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Thank you, Laurent (and Jan-Bart) - it's lovely to hear these updates. Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the differences between their goals and policies?
Warmly, SJ
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevreede@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey,
Having been involved in the Dutch Wikikids project over the past years (full disclosure: this is a small part of my work for the Kennisnet Foundation which supports this initiative) I can tell you a little more about it.
Wikikids is run by a small foundation which has 5 trustees (who are all educators). They have 12889 articles and over 9000 pictures. They get about 3,5 million website visits a year. An important part is that they feel that the writing of the article by kids is actually a way for them to learn. While the end result is also important, the writing and improving is at least of equal (if not higher) importance.
The english page on the project is here:
http://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:English_explanation
(I am not sure but I think one or two of the founders might be on this mailing list, but probably not actively following it)
Jan-Bart
On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult had tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a case on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal on the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component of Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many other community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat systems, message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
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Le 19/04/2013 12:57, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Thank you, Laurent (and Jan-Bart) - it's lovely to hear these updates. Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the differences between their goals and policies?
Warmly, SJ
Yes, there is this discussion on that issue (in French, 2010) http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia I had not read it again recently, but I think it has some substantial content on that question. By the way, the discussions we had in Milan brought several points to work on (among which a summary in English of this discussion and if they were new elements since it) I will keep you informed !
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevreede@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey,
Having been involved in the Dutch Wikikids project over the past years (full disclosure: this is a small part of my work for the Kennisnet Foundation which supports this initiative) I can tell you a little more about it.
Wikikids is run by a small foundation which has 5 trustees (who are all educators). They have 12889 articles and over 9000 pictures. They get about 3,5 million website visits a year. An important part is that they feel that the writing of the article by kids is actually a way for them to learn. While the end result is also important, the writing and improving is at least of equal (if not higher) importance.
The english page on the project is here:
http://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:English_explanation
(I am not sure but I think one or two of the founders might be on this mailing list, but probably not actively following it)
Jan-Bart
On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult had tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a case on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal on the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component of Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many other community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat systems, message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
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Haha, I thought children were clever enough to realise that MediaWiki talk page sucks!
Tom
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 19/04/2013 12:57, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Thank you, Laurent (and Jan-Bart) - it's lovely to hear these updates. Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the differences between their goals and policies?
Warmly, SJ
Yes, there is this discussion on that issue (in French, 2010) http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia I had not read it again recently, but I think it has some substantial content on that question. By the way, the discussions we had in Milan brought several points to work on (among which a summary in English of this discussion and if they were new elements since it) I will keep you informed !
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevreede@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey,
Having been involved in the Dutch Wikikids project over the past years (full disclosure: this is a small part of my work for the Kennisnet Foundation which supports this initiative) I can tell you a little more about it.
Wikikids is run by a small foundation which has 5 trustees (who are all educators). They have 12889 articles and over 9000 pictures. They get about 3,5 million website visits a year. An important part is that they feel that the writing of the article by kids is actually a way for them to learn. While the end result is also important, the writing and improving is at least of equal (if not higher) importance.
The english page on the project is here:
http://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:English_explanation
(I am not sure but I think one or two of the founders might be on this mailing list, but probably not actively following it)
Jan-Bart
On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult had tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a case on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal on the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component of Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many other community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat systems, message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
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Hi All,
Sorry for the late answer.
@Jan-Bart:
Hello, and thank you for your intervention. Yes, Wikimini and Wikikids.nl are very similar projects, both in their background and the way they evolved. I remember that I translated your explanation page in French, but this was a while ago: http://wikikids.wiki.kennisnet.nl/Wikikids:Pr%C3%A9sentation_en_fran%C3%A7ai...)
@Will:
No page talk ?
Yes, we use talk pages (with threaded comments), but as you know their content is publicly viewable by anyone. This is what I meant when I said "there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini". I think this restriction is very important on such a wiki, even if it has some disadvantages.
@Samuel and @Mathias:
(...) Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the
differences between their goals and policies?
Hello Samuel and Mathias. Yes, there have been a few discussions in the past. The page reported by Mathias was a discussion I started on their wiki in 2010. I think it was the last one. I previously (in 2009) started a dedicated forum to talk about potential collaborations (and even rapprochements) between the projects. The forum is not live anymore, but if I recall correctly, it only contained 4 or 5 messages. At this time, Mathias proposed to import the content and users of Wikimini into Vikidia and to redirect our domain (wikimini.org) to their own, while letting users chose between the two "interfaces". On our side, I have to admit that we did not have any concrete idea (better or not) to offer at this time. I don't recall any other discussions in between, but maybe I'm wrong.
@Everton:
Haha, I thought children were clever enough to realise that MediaWiki
talk page sucks!
Olá Everton (*<-- você recebeu meu email?*). You're right. Talk pages are not very handy to use. We solved this on Wikimini with a great extension called LiquidThreads http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads(used on some Wikimedia projects). We're currently using an older version, which is lightweight and very easy to use. I have to say that it is fantastic. However notifications don't work 100%, and this is sort of a problem.
Have a great week!
Laurent
2013/4/21 Everton Zanella Alvarenga tom@wikimedia.org
Haha, I thought children were clever enough to realise that MediaWiki talk page sucks!
Tom
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 19/04/2013 12:57, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Thank you, Laurent (and Jan-Bart) - it's lovely to hear these updates. Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the differences between their goals and policies?
Warmly, SJ
Yes, there is this discussion on that issue (in French, 2010) http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia I had not read it again recently, but I think it has some substantial content on that question. By the way, the discussions we had in Milan brought several points to
work
on (among which a summary in English of this discussion and if they were
new
elements since it) I will keep you informed !
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevreede@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey,
Having been involved in the Dutch Wikikids project over the past years (full disclosure: this is a small part of my work for the Kennisnet
Foundation
which supports this initiative) I can tell you a little more about it.
Wikikids is run by a small foundation which has 5 trustees (who are all educators). They have 12889 articles and over 9000 pictures. They get about 3,5 million website visits a year. An important part is that they feel that the writing of the article by kids is actually a way for them to learn. While the end result is also important, the writing and improving is at least of equal (if not higher) importance.
The english page on the project is here:
http://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:English_explanation
(I am not sure but I think one or two of the founders might be on this mailing list, but probably not actively following it)
Jan-Bart
On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Laurent Jauquier <
laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch>
wrote:
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult
had
tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a
case
on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal
on
the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component
of
Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many
other
community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat
systems,
message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
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Encyclopedia
has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency.
I
wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==>
http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
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Le 23/04/2013 00:18, Laurent Jauquier a écrit :
Hi All,
Sorry for the late answer.
@Jan-Bart:
Hello, and thank you for your intervention. Yes, Wikimini and Wikikids.nl are very similar projects, both in their background andthe way they evolved. I remember that I translated your explanation page in French, but this was a while ago: http://wikikids.wiki.kennisnet.nl/Wikikids:Pr%C3%A9sentation_en_fran%C3%A7ai... :-)
The funny thing is that I would say that Wikikids.nl is more similar to Vikidia in its principles than to Wikimini ! One of its promoter wrote recently "The Dutch WikiKids has both purposes: learn how to edit on a wiki and profide suitable information for children. Both purposes are important, in my opinion." ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikikids#Talk:Wikikids.2FFor_children_or... )
*You* actually wrote about them that "adults may [just] help in the process" http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikikids%2FReview_of_current_exi...
@Samuel and @Mathias:
(...) Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the differences between their goals and policies?Hello Samuel and Mathias. Yes, there have been a few discussions in the past. The page reported by Mathias was a discussion I started on their wiki in 2010. I think it was the last one. I previously (in 2009) started a dedicated forum to talk about potential collaborations (and even rapprochements) between the projects. The forum is not live anymore, but if I recall correctly, it only contained 4 or 5 messages. At this time, Mathias proposed to import the content and users of Wikimini into Vikidia and to redirect our domain (wikimini.org http://wikimini.org) to their own, while letting users chose between the two "interfaces". On our side, I have to admit that we did not have any concrete idea (better or not) to offer at this time. I don't recall any other discussions in between, but maybe I'm wrong.
Your proposal on this 2010 discussion, ( http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia ) to which I anserwed by the one you mention, was that Vikida would switch its reader target to 13 to 18 years old people, and cohabit in this manner with Wikimini which would be for 8-13 years old children.
One of my arguments against that was that I disagree with the assumption that this proposal held, which is that children schould write for children, and teenagers for teenagers. The fact that teenagers (and adults and children) write on Vikidia doesn't mean that the content should be labeled for teenager rather than for younger children that need this content (they notably ask for more articles and more content in each article on the guestbook when asked for "what they think about Vikidia" throught the sitenotice). In the same way, Wikipedia is roughly written by students/academics for high-school pupils, there is a kind of interval between the average editor and average reader.
I made some statistics to compare these 3 wikis (Wikikids.nl, Wikimini and Vikidia) and I will upload it soon. It appears among other things that the average size of articles of Wikimini is 47% of the one of Vikidia, wheras Wikikids.nl/Vikidia makes 59%.
However, I think that we should have sometimes some assessment of the level of the content and how it fits with the readers it announces. This could be either by some automatic analysis (that may compare to some publications for children dedicated to the same age range) or by real-life methodical tests with children. This has been on our todo list for a few months...
Bye !
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Your proposal on this 2010 discussion, ( http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia ) to which I anserwed by the one you mention, was that Vikida would switch its reader target to 13 to 18 years old people, and cohabit in this manner with Wikimini which would be for 8-13 years old children.
One of my arguments against that was that I disagree with the assumption that this proposal held, which is that children schould write for children, and teenagers for teenagers.
I think "children" and "teenagers" are different audiences. Authors of any age can write for those two audiences.
I could imagine having up to three versions of articles about any topic: with complexity suitable for audiences of ages "6-12", "13-19", "any".
In the same way, Wikipedia is roughly written by students/academics for high-school pupils, there is a kind of interval between the average editor and average reader.
That's unclear - sometimes there are both short and long versions of WP articles. The language for specialized topics is often much more advanced than suitable for high-school students.
Le 23/04/2013 04:30, Samuel Klein a écrit :
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Your proposal on this 2010 discussion, ( http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia ) to which I anserwed by the one you mention, was that Vikida would switch its reader target to 13 to 18 years old people, and cohabit in this manner with Wikimini which would be for 8-13 years old children.
One of my arguments against that was that I disagree with the assumption that this proposal held, which is that children schould write for children, and teenagers for teenagers.
I think "children" and "teenagers" are different audiences.
They are, still every single child may be a different audience...
Authors of any age can write for those two audiences.
I could imagine having up to three versions of articles about any topic: with complexity suitable for audiences of ages "6-12", "13-19", "any".
One may think about it. However, I think in regards to legibility and having a clear and mobilizing goal, it may not be productive. There is no working wikikids in some major languages. When they do exist, say in french, whereas some primary schools websites link Vikidia, many still rather link Wikipedia, which means it's hard to gather an audience even if we think we have the content that fits to it.
Someone that is quite involved in the education innovation debate in France now use to tell about how he figure a resource that would be adapted to each individual. I didn't get easily what he means, may-be a Facebook-like system that would suggest you content that fits to your level of knowledge (automaticaly or by peer suggestion ?) It may be related to the concept of "zone of proximal development" (see on WP if you need ;-)). We had a talk and I guess the idea was to integrate Vikidia into this. However, I don't get it. Be it an automatic system that use Vikidia's content among others, that's fine. But when it comes to produce content, we have to worry about our own consistency first, in order to allow the users to work in good conditions. I personally believe that two new levels (young children and teenagers) of encyclopedic content would be quite challenging and maybe too ambitious. Moreover, a system with multiple levels of content or workspaces (for schools, adults...) wouldn't make it, if not in a completely new way on which I have no idea neither guarantees it would succeed.
In the same way, Wikipedia is roughly written by students/academics for high-school pupils, there is a kind of interval between the average editor and average reader.
That's unclear - sometimes there are both short and long versions of WP articles. The language for specialized topics is often much more advanced than suitable for high-school students.
Sure, it is certainly the same on wikis for children regarding short or long articles or their level. Out of this I would make the argument that it seem quite vain to be willing to address every precise age ranges. What if a 15 years old has not his dedicated wiki encyclopedia, between a Wikikids and Wikipedia ? Well at the moment, a 10 years old German, or English speaking child that look for information is mostly led to Wikipedia, which can be considered as a more acute issue.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids
Mathias Damour mathias.damour-QFKgK+z4sOrR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org writes:
We had a talk and I guess the idea was to integrate Vikidia into this.
(Or rather integrate this into Vikidia?)
However, I don't get it. Be it an automatic system that use Vikidia's content among others, that's fine. But when it comes to produce content, we have to worry about our own consistency first, in order to allow the users to work in good conditions.
I very much agree with this POV.
Splitting and writing various contents upstream depending on the target audience sounds like "premature optimization".
Sure, assumptions on who are the readers cannot be avoided, but the side-effects of having wrong assumptions are less damaging when the content stay consistent rather than targetted (upstream and early.)
Also, it seems easier to build adapted learning path from consistent content rather than to build consistent content from splitted paths.
Think of software design: you want a consistent set of features before considering customization, rather than several set of pre- configured versions before general consistent defaults. I know this analogy has its limits, but still.
2 cts,
My point is: If there are different sites (like wikimini and vikidia) that expressly target different audiences, that's not necessarily a sign of incompatibility. I think it should be okay to have more than one article on a given topic, in any wiki for kids, if the different articles have significantly different language levels.
(There might be only a short set of ~1000 articles in an encyclopedia for 3-6 year olds -- but certainly those articles would be different than those written for 8-18 year olds!)
SJ
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 23/04/2013 04:30, Samuel Klein a écrit :
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Your proposal on this 2010 discussion, ( http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia ) to which I anserwed by the one you mention, was that Vikida would switch its reader target to 13 to 18 years old people, and cohabit in this manner with Wikimini which would be for 8-13 years old children.
One of my arguments against that was that I disagree with the assumption that this proposal held, which is that children schould write for children, and teenagers for teenagers.
I think "children" and "teenagers" are different audiences.
They are, still every single child may be a different audience...
Authors of any age can write for those two audiences.
I could imagine having up to three versions of articles about any topic: with complexity suitable for audiences of ages "6-12", "13-19", "any".
One may think about it. However, I think in regards to legibility and having a clear and mobilizing goal, it may not be productive. There is no working wikikids in some major languages. When they do exist, say in french, whereas some primary schools websites link Vikidia, many still rather link Wikipedia, which means it's hard to gather an audience even if we think we have the content that fits to it.
Someone that is quite involved in the education innovation debate in France now use to tell about how he figure a resource that would be adapted to each individual. I didn't get easily what he means, may-be a Facebook-like system that would suggest you content that fits to your level of knowledge (automaticaly or by peer suggestion ?) It may be related to the concept of "zone of proximal development" (see on WP if you need ;-)). We had a talk and I guess the idea was to integrate Vikidia into this. However, I don't get it. Be it an automatic system that use Vikidia's content among others, that's fine. But when it comes to produce content, we have to worry about our own consistency first, in order to allow the users to work in good conditions. I personally believe that two new levels (young children and teenagers) of encyclopedic content would be quite challenging and maybe too ambitious. Moreover, a system with multiple levels of content or workspaces (for schools, adults...) wouldn't make it, if not in a completely new way on which I have no idea neither guarantees it would succeed.
In the same way, Wikipedia is roughly written by students/academics for high-school pupils, there is a kind of interval between the average editor and average reader.
That's unclear - sometimes there are both short and long versions of WP articles. The language for specialized topics is often much more advanced than suitable for high-school students.
Sure, it is certainly the same on wikis for children regarding short or long articles or their level. Out of this I would make the argument that it seem quite vain to be willing to address every precise age ranges. What if a 15 years old has not his dedicated wiki encyclopedia, between a Wikikids and Wikipedia ? Well at the moment, a 10 years old German, or English speaking child that look for information is mostly led to Wikipedia, which can be considered as a more acute issue.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids
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Hi again and sorry for this late reply,
@Mathias:
Salut Mathias, thank you for your interest and your valuable inputs. I hope you don't mind me answering a few of the points you have made.
*The funny thing is that I would say that Wikikids.nl is more similar to
Vikidia in its principles than to Wikimini ! One of its promoter wrote recently "The Dutch WikiKids has both purposes: learn how to edit on a wiki and profide suitable information for children. Both purposes are important, in my opinion."*
This is the same on Wikimini. In any case all the contributors to Wikimini are doing their very best to support and enhance these two aspects. At the same time, Wikimini has from the very beginning put a particularly strong focus on children's participation because we have always seen more opportunities for them to learn by contributing rather than by simply reading.
*(...) which is that children schould write for
children, and teenagers for teenagers.
On Wikimini, both children and teenagers (usually around 8 to 15 years old) develop the content. And they do it with the help of adults. We only *suggest* and encourage adults to concentrate more their efforts on areas in which children might need a little more help, and to use their best efforts to give added value to *(in French I would have said "valoriser")*the contributions made by children (see http://fr.wikimini.org/wiki/Aide:Adultes *(in French)*) for more information.
*I made some statistics to compare these 3 wikis (Wikikids.nl, Wikimini
and Vikidia) and I will upload it soon. It appears among other things that the average size of articles of Wikimini is 47% of the one of Vikidia, wheras Wikikids.nl/Vikidia makes 59%.*
Well, I think you agree that the size of an article doesn't represent a sign of quality, especially in an encyclopedia written for young readers. However I can honestly say that I would have expected Wikimini articles to be much shorter than they actually are, especially because of the age differences between these projects (and some other differences as well). Therefore this is a (positive) surprise for me, even if... you know what they say about statistics ...and bikinishttps://www.google.com/search?q="statistics+are+like+bikinis":-) ! Anyway, thank you for taking the time to share your findings. The good conclusion is that we are all still works in progress that will only become better with time. Hopefully we may also find a way to better collaborate in the future.
À bientôt... peut-être ? (je serai en Europe du 12 juin au 30 juillet).
@Bastien:
Thank you for your kind words.
*On this page, there is a confusion between « libre » and « libre de
droits »: http://fr.wikimini.org/wiki/Wikimini :R%C3%A8gles_d%27utilisation_des_images*
Mhh... I'm not sure about this one. On this page, we try to explain (in very simple words!) what kind of images are allowed on Wikimini. Where is the confusion? "Free (content)" is a short way to say "Legally free (content)". Or maybe I'm missing something?
*(...) I tried to view this image:
http://stock.wikimini.org/wiki/File:Chat-3551.jpg?uselang=fr and could not find copyright information. When trying to check on flickr, flickr asks me to log in (??).
Thank you for reporting this. It looks like the author of this picture had moved the file from public to private. I have updated our Flickr templates to directly incorporate and show the required information.
*Finally, a tiny UI glitch: C-<left-click> on an external link (like
a link to flickr) will ask the user to confirm she wants to leave the page, while C-<left-click> will open the link in a new tab for most browsers I know -- the confirmation is not needed.
Yes, this is a safety setting for children. However, I know that if you try to open the link in a new tab, the confirmation window won't appear. Unfortunately I don't know of any way to solve this. And at the same time, it is not very important. But if anyone has a solution please feel free to share!
Thank you again for your words of encouragement and constructive feedback. C'est vraiment très apprécié.
Laurent
2013/4/23 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
My point is: If there are different sites (like wikimini and vikidia) that expressly target different audiences, that's not necessarily a sign of incompatibility. I think it should be okay to have more than one article on a given topic, in any wiki for kids, if the different articles have significantly different language levels.
(There might be only a short set of ~1000 articles in an encyclopedia for 3-6 year olds -- but certainly those articles would be different than those written for 8-18 year olds!)
SJ
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 23/04/2013 04:30, Samuel Klein a écrit :
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Your proposal on this 2010 discussion, ( http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia ) to which I anserwed by the one you mention, was that Vikida would switch its reader target
to
13 to 18 years old people, and cohabit in this manner with Wikimini which would be for 8-13 years old children.
One of my arguments against that was that I disagree with the
assumption
that this proposal held, which is that children schould write for children, and teenagers for teenagers.
I think "children" and "teenagers" are different audiences.
They are, still every single child may be a different audience...
Authors of any age can write for those two audiences.
I could imagine having up to three versions of articles about any topic: with complexity suitable for audiences of ages "6-12", "13-19", "any".
One may think about it. However, I think in regards to legibility and having a clear and
mobilizing
goal, it may not be productive. There is no working wikikids in some major languages. When they do exist, say in french, whereas some primary schools websites link Vikidia, many still rather link Wikipedia, which means it's hard to gather an audience even if we think we have the content that fits to it.
Someone that is quite involved in the education innovation debate in
France
now use to tell about how he figure a resource that would be adapted to
each
individual. I didn't get easily what he means, may-be a Facebook-like
system
that would suggest you content that fits to your level of knowledge (automaticaly or by peer suggestion ?) It may be related to the concept
of
"zone of proximal development" (see on WP if you need ;-)). We had a talk and I guess the idea was to integrate Vikidia into this. However, I don't get it. Be it an automatic system that use Vikidia's content among others, that's fine. But when it comes to produce content,
we
have to worry about our own consistency first, in order to allow the
users
to work in good conditions. I personally believe that two new levels (young children and teenagers)
of
encyclopedic content would be quite challenging and maybe too ambitious. Moreover, a system with multiple levels of content or workspaces (for schools, adults...) wouldn't make it, if not in a completely new way on which I have no idea neither guarantees it would succeed.
In the same way, Wikipedia is roughly written by students/academics for high-school pupils, there is a kind of interval between the average editor and average reader.
That's unclear - sometimes there are both short and long versions of WP articles. The language for specialized topics is often much more advanced than suitable for high-school students.
Sure, it is certainly the same on wikis for children regarding short or
long
articles or their level. Out of this I would make the argument that it
seem
quite vain to be willing to address every precise age ranges. What if a 15 years old has not his dedicated wiki encyclopedia, between a Wikikids and Wikipedia ? Well at the moment, a 10 years old German, or English speaking child that look for information is mostly led to Wikipedia, which can be considered
as
a more acute issue.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids
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No page talk ?
-----Original Message----- From: Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, Apr 19, 2013 2:09 am Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
Hi Will,
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult had tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a case on Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal on the wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component of Wikimini.
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many other community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat systems, message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini. Moreover the email functionality has been deactivated.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
2013/4/18 Wjhonson wjhonson@aol.com
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
-----Original Message----- From: Jane Park janepark@creativecommons.org To: Wikimedia Education education@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's Encyclopedia has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other languages?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier laurent.jauquier@unifr.ch wrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French (http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those who don't know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by children and young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists in French and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by Wikipedia).
Word cloud:
On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were asked to choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their eyes. A word cloud was built using the words we had received and their frequency. I wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
==> http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
Laurent http://wikimini.org
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Hi Laurent,
kudos for the progress with respect to the number of articles.
On this page, there is a confusion between « libre » and « libre de droits »:
http://fr.wikimini.org/wiki/Wikimini:R%C3%A8gles_d%27utilisation_des_images
They are not equivalent, you may want to fix this.
My understanding is that Wikimini allow contributors to use non-free medias ("non-free" as in non-DP-or-non-using-a-free-license). Maybe I read to quickly, but I tried to view this image:
http://stock.wikimini.org/wiki/File:Chat-3551.jpg?uselang=fr
and could not find copyright information.
When trying to check on flickr, flickr asks me to log in (??).
Finally, a tiny UI glitch: C-<left-click> on an external link (like a link to flickr) will ask the user to confirm she wants to leave the page, while C-<left-click> will open the link in a new tab for most browsers I know -- the confirmation is not needed.
Thanks for further enlightenment about the copyright policies, and good luck for taking this project forward,