Le 23/04/2013 00:18, Laurent Jauquier a écrit :
Sorry for the late answer.
Hello, and thank you for your intervention. Yes, Wikimini and
Wikikids.nl are very similar projects, both in their background andthe
way they evolved. I remember that I translated your explanation page
in French, but this was a while ago:
The funny thing is that I would say that Wikikids.nl is more similar to
Vikidia in its principles than to Wikimini !
One of its promoter wrote recently "The Dutch WikiKids has both
purposes: learn how to edit on a wiki and profide suitable information
for children. Both purposes are important, in my opinion."
*You* actually wrote about them that "adults may [just] help in the process"
@Samuel and @Mathias:
(...) Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors
differences between their goals and policies?
Hello Samuel and Mathias. Yes, there have been a few discussions in
the past. The page reported by Mathias was a discussion I started on
their wiki in 2010. I think it was the last one. I previously (in
2009) started a dedicated forum to talk about potential collaborations
(and even rapprochements) between the projects. The forum is not live
anymore, but if I recall correctly, it only contained 4 or 5 messages.
At this time, Mathias proposed to import the content and users of
Wikimini into Vikidia and to redirect our domain (wikimini.org
<http://wikimini.org>) to their own, while letting users chose between
the two "interfaces". On our side, I have to admit that we did not
have any concrete idea (better or not) to offer at this time. I don't
recall any other discussions in between, but maybe I'm wrong.
Your proposal on this 2010 discussion, (
) to which I
anserwed by the one you mention, was that Vikida would switch its reader
target to 13 to 18 years old people, and cohabit in this manner with
Wikimini which would be for 8-13 years old children.
One of my arguments against that was that I disagree with the assumption
that this proposal held, which is that children schould write for
children, and teenagers for teenagers. The fact that teenagers (and
adults and children) write on Vikidia doesn't mean that the content
should be labeled for teenager rather than for younger children that
need this content (they notably ask for more articles and more content
in each article on the guestbook when asked for "what they think about
Vikidia" throught the sitenotice).
In the same way, Wikipedia is roughly written by students/academics for
high-school pupils, there is a kind of interval between the average
editor and average reader.
I made some statistics to compare these 3 wikis (Wikikids.nl, Wikimini
and Vikidia) and I will upload it soon. It appears among other things
that the average size of articles of Wikimini is 47% of the one of
Vikidia, wheras Wikikids.nl/Vikidia makes 59%.
However, I think that we should have sometimes some assessment of the
level of the content and how it fits with the readers it announces. This
could be either by some automatic analysis (that may compare to some
publications for children dedicated to the same age range) or by
real-life methodical tests with children. This has been on our todo list
for a few months...
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