Hi All,
Sorry for the late answer.
@Jan-Bart:
Hello, and thank you for your intervention. Yes, Wikimini and Wikikids.nl
are very similar projects, both in their background and the way they evolved.
I remember that I translated your explanation page in French, but this was
a while ago:
http://wikikids.wiki.kennisnet.nl/Wikikids:Pr%C3%A9sentation_en_fran%C3%A7a…)
@Will:
No page talk ?
Yes, we use talk pages (with threaded comments), but as you know their
content is publicly viewable by anyone. This is what I meant when I said
"there is no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on
Wikimini". I think this restriction is very important on such a wiki, even
if it has some disadvantages.
@Samuel and @Mathias:
(...) Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the
> differences between their goals and policies?
Hello Samuel and Mathias. Yes, there have been a few discussions in the
past. The page reported by Mathias was a discussion I started on their wiki
in 2010. I think it was the last one. I previously (in 2009) started a
dedicated forum to talk about potential collaborations (and even
rapprochements) between the projects. The forum is not live anymore, but if
I recall correctly, it only contained 4 or 5 messages. At this time,
Mathias proposed to import the content and users of Wikimini into Vikidia
and to redirect our domain (
wikimini.org) to their own, while letting users
chose between the two "interfaces". On our side, I have to admit that we
did not have any concrete idea (better or not) to offer at this time. I
don't recall any other discussions in between, but maybe I'm wrong.
@Everton:
Haha, I thought children were clever enough to realise that MediaWiki
talk page sucks!
Olá Everton (*<-- você recebeu meu email?*). You're right. Talk pages are
not very handy to use. We solved this on Wikimini with a great extension
called LiquidThreads
<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads>(used on some
Wikimedia projects). We're currently using an older version,
which is lightweight and very easy to use. I have to say that it is
fantastic. However notifications don't work 100%, and this is sort of a
problem.
Have a great week!
Laurent
2013/4/21 Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom(a)wikimedia.org
> Haha, I thought children were clever enough to realise that MediaWiki
talk page sucks!
> Tom
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Mathias
Damour
> <mathias.damour(a)laposte.net> wrote:
> > Le 19/04/2013 12:57, Samuel Klein a écrit :
>
> >> Thank you, Laurent (and Jan-Bart)
- it's lovely to hear these updates.
> >> Is there discussion between wikimini and vikidia editors about the
> >> differences between their goals and policies?
> >
> >>
Warmly,
> >> SJ
>
>
> > Yes, there is this discussion on that issue (in French, 2010)
> >
http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikimini_et_Vikidia
> > I had not read it again recently, but I think it has some substantial
> > content on that question.
> > By the way, the discussions we had in Milan brought several points to
> work
> > on (among which a summary in English of this discussion and if they were
> new
> > elements since it)
> > I will keep you informed !
>
>
> >
> >> On Fri,
Apr 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede
> >> <jdevreede(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
Hey,
> >>
> >>>
Having been involved in the Dutch Wikikids project over the past years
> >>> (full
> >>> disclosure: this is a small part of my work for the Kennisnet
> Foundation
> >>> which supports this initiative) I can tell you a little more about it.
> >>
> >>>
Wikikids is run by a small foundation which has 5 trustees (who are all
> >>> educators). They have 12889 articles and over 9000 pictures. They get
> >>> about
> >>> 3,5 million website visits a year. An important part is that they feel
> >>> that
> >>> the writing of the article by kids is actually a way for them to learn.
> >>> While the end result is also important, the writing and improving is at
> >>> least of equal (if not higher) importance.
> >>
> >>> The
english page on the project is here:
> >>
> >>>
http://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:English_explanation
> >>
> >>> (I
am not sure but I think one or two of the founders might be on this
> >>> mailing list, but probably not actively following it)
> >>
> >>>
Jan-Bart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:55 AM,
Laurent Jauquier <
> laurent.jauquier(a)unifr.ch
> >>>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
Will,
> >>
> >>>
After four years of activity, I can't recall a case in which an adult
> had
> >>> tried to pass itself off as a child or that we even suspected such a
> case
> >>> on
> >>> Wikimini. In fact it is important to note that adults are also fully
> >>> involved in the project and they even have their own dedicated portal
> on
> >>> the
> >>> wiki. I mean, our users are not *only* children, and furthermore, the
> >>> collaboration between the latter and adults is an important component
> of
> >>> Wikimini.
> >>
> >>>
From a safety standpoint it should also be noted that unlike many
> other
> >>> community websites and services aimed at children (think of chat
> systems,
> >>> message boards, online games, virtual worlds, social networks...) there
> >>> is
> >>> no way to engage in private exchanges with other users on Wikimini.
> >>> Moreover
> >>> the email functionality has been deactivated.
> >>
> >>>
Laurent
> >>>
http://wikimini.org
> >>
> >>>
2013/4/18 Wjhonson <wjhonson(a)aol.com
> >>>
> >>>>
How do you ensure that the contributors are children ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original
Message-----
> >>>> From: Jane Park <janepark(a)creativecommons.org
> >>>> To: Wikimedia Education
<education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> >>>>
Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 2:38 pm
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Wikimini, the Children's
> Encyclopedia
> >>>> has reached 10 000 articles (word cloud inside)
> >>>
> >>>>
This is very cool! Are there any children oriented wikis in other
> >>>> languages?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at
6:14 PM, Laurent Jauquier
> >>>> <laurent.jauquier(a)unifr.ch> wrote:
> >>>>
>
>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
>
>>>>> I'm pleased to let you know that Wikimini in French
> >>>>> (
http://fr.wikimini.org) has reached 10 000 articles. For those
who
> >>>>> don't
> >>>>> know our project, Wikimini is a free encyclopedia written by
children
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> young teenagers, both at school and at home. It currently exists
in
> >>>>> French
> >>>>> and the site is based on Mediawiki (same software used by
Wikipedia).
> >>>>
>
>>>>> Word cloud:
> >>>>
>
>>>>> On this very special occasion, our aspiring encyclopedists were
asked
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> choose 3 words that would best describe the project in their
eyes. A
> >>>>> word
> >>>>> cloud was built using the words we had received and their
frequency.
> I
> >>>>> wanted to share it with you, so I translated it in English:
> >>>>
>
>>>>> ==
>
http://stock.wikimini.org/w/images/7/7c/EN-Wikimini_in_75_words.png
> >>>>
>
>>>>> I hope you'll find it interesting and inspiring.
> >>>>
>
>>>>> Laurent
> >>>>>
http://wikimini.org
> >>>>
>
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> >>>
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