Hello, [[m:Logo]] claims logo should be consistent. I agree. This document shows us the "scrabble" type logo as Wiktionary logo; at least it was a result of straw poll. I am not sure if the Wiktionary active editors love it. Perhaps not. On the Wikimedia Foundation website, on "Our projects" table and [[Wikimedia:Our projects]], both pages show visitors the old one (dic entry type) logo as project logo.
On the project itself, most of projects - I visited top 10 websites of Wiktionaries to write this mail - most of projects use the older one as their logos, except one. The Vietnamese Wiktionary uses the scrabble type.
We need to pursue consistency here? Or is it okay for all parties involved?
I think it is a matter of promotion/publification, not only the community, so sent a cc to Communication committee (before I failed to type the current email address of this list) .
Two different logos: "scrabble type" http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktprintable_without_text.svg "dic entry type" http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktionary.png -- KIZU Naoko Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org * habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *
Hoi, Many Wiktionarians do not like the new logo. If they did, they would have implemented the new logo. There may have been a poll but in effect the projects have voted by dragging their feet.
So whatever you do, you will do it wrong. The old one is more popular than the new one. The new one was elected in a vote.
Thanks, GerardM
Aphaia schreef:
Hello, [[m:Logo]] claims logo should be consistent. I agree. This document shows us the "scrabble" type logo as Wiktionary logo; at least it was a result of straw poll. I am not sure if the Wiktionary active editors love it. Perhaps not. On the Wikimedia Foundation website, on "Our projects" table and [[Wikimedia:Our projects]], both pages show visitors the old one (dic entry type) logo as project logo.
On the project itself, most of projects - I visited top 10 websites of Wiktionaries to write this mail - most of projects use the older one as their logos, except one. The Vietnamese Wiktionary uses the scrabble type.
We need to pursue consistency here? Or is it okay for all parties involved?
I think it is a matter of promotion/publification, not only the community, so sent a cc to Communication committee (before I failed to type the current email address of this list) .
Two different logos: "scrabble type" http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktprintable_without_text.svg "dic entry type" http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktionary.png -- KIZU Naoko Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org
- habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *
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Salut, This page states that " Logos are global: All languages have to use the same logo ". The old one and the new one both are not consistent : every language has it's own version of the logo. And as Gerard said, there is a dilemna...
Darkdadaah
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com a écrit : Hoi, Many Wiktionarians do not like the new logo. If they did, they would have implemented the new logo. There may have been a poll but in effect the projects have voted by dragging their feet.
So whatever you do, you will do it wrong. The old one is more popular than the new one. The new one was elected in a vote.
Thanks, GerardM
Aphaia schreef:
Hello, [[m:Logo]] claims logo should be consistent. I agree. This document shows us the "scrabble" type logo as Wiktionary logo; at least it was a result of straw poll. I am not sure if the Wiktionary active editors love it. Perhaps not. On the Wikimedia Foundation website, on "Our projects" table and [[Wikimedia:Our projects]], both pages show visitors the old one (dic entry type) logo as project logo.
On the project itself, most of projects - I visited top 10 websites of Wiktionaries to write this mail - most of projects use the older one as their logos, except one. The Vietnamese Wiktionary uses the scrabble type.
We need to pursue consistency here? Or is it okay for all parties involved?
I think it is a matter of promotion/publification, not only the community, so sent a cc to Communication committee (before I failed to type the current email address of this list) .
Two different logos: "scrabble type" http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktprintable_without_text.svg "dic entry type" http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktionary.png -- KIZU Naoko Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org
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Matthieu Barba wrote:
Salut, This page states that " Logos are global: All languages have to use the same logo ". The old one and the new one both are not consistent : every language has it's own version of the logo. And as Gerard said, there is a dilemna...
Well, I totally agree with you. People like me didn't like the old "logo" (which is not a real logo at all), but they find the new one even worse. But as the vote showed, the community is against keeping the current one (there was en extra-section for "keeping the current logo", not too many people voted for that). In my opinion, it is all in all a problem of the voting procedure; there were so many voters who are not involved in the Wiktionary project. The vote only should have been open for people participating in Wiktionary because at the end it's the "Wiktionaryans" who have to change their logo. We have to reach a consensus inside the Wiktionary community, otherwise we have that kind of problems.
Due to the fact that most people are interested in having a new logo, I guess we should rehold that vote, maybe there will be new proposals that make the decision easier :-)
Greetings,
Pill (wiki.pill @ gmail.com)
Aphaia wrote:
Hello, [[m:Logo]] claims logo should be consistent. I agree. This document shows us the "scrabble" type logo as Wiktionary logo; at least it was a result of straw poll. I am not sure if the Wiktionary active editors love it. Perhaps not. On the Wikimedia Foundation website, on "Our projects" table and [[Wikimedia:Our projects]], both pages show visitors the old one (dic entry type) logo as project logo.
Has anyone bothered to check whether the Scrabble people have any IP issues with using that logo?
Ec
Ray Saintonge a écrit :
Has anyone bothered to check whether the Scrabble people have any IP issues with using that logo?
Ec
It could be annoying...
Anyway, I'll ask what the people on fr.wikt thinks about this (I don't think a lot of them read this list).
Dakdada
Ray Saintonge wrote:
Aphaia wrote:
Hello, [[m:Logo]] claims logo should be consistent. I agree. This document shows us the "scrabble" type logo as Wiktionary logo; at least it was a result of straw poll. I am not sure if the Wiktionary active editors love it. Perhaps not. On the Wikimedia Foundation website, on "Our projects" table and [[Wikimedia:Our projects]], both pages show visitors the old one (dic entry type) logo as project logo.
Has anyone bothered to check whether the Scrabble people have any IP issues with using that logo?
Ec
If I recall correctly, the logo was intentionally a cross between Scrabble and Mahjong. I'm not sure if it would help us that the generic Mahjong tile design isn't trademarked, if it ever came to dealing with "the Scrabble people". (lol, that just reminds me of the old children's TV show "The Letter People". [1]
In my opinion, it's not that big of a deal if the Vietnamese Wiktionary is the only edition to adopt the tiles; the Galego Wiktionary has always featured a logo that appears to be a lectionary or Bible. I get the feeling that many of the editions would've already switched if they saw enough of the other editions switching. The Italian Wiktionary, for example, has an enormous copy of the tiles logo right under the fold, and the Korean Wiktionary uses elements of the logo throughout the site.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Letter_People
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