Tomer Chachamu wrote:
> On 30/06/05, Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>>Someone has changed the $wgCapitalLinks setting on en.wiktionary.org,
>>causing many thousands of links to break without warning -- far too many
>>for humans to fix up in a reasonable amount of time.
>>
>>I'm really, really, really annoyed about this, and I'd appreciate it if
>>whoever made this premature change would at least confess to the deed.
>
>
> I'm really, really sorry about this: I'm sure somebody announced it in
> the IRC channel and thus knew who was responsible - but I've forgotten
> who it was.
It was Tim. He didn't announce the change (that I noticed, anyway) and
forgot to log it in the administrator's log, then happened to be away
from the computer for the next several hours.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Hi, on the Italian wiktionary someone with only IP added the above term
with a capital letter. The definition says that it means "ice" or is a
person's name. Now I tried to check with is.wikipedia/is.wiktionary and
I found out that indeed it is a persons name, but I cannot find a
reference to its meaning of "ice".
Anyway when it means "ice" doesn't it need the spelling "jökull" with a
lower case "j"?
I hope there's someone talking this language on the list, otherwise I'll
just add the name and delete the rest.
Sorry for crossposting, but since this is a seldom language chances are
higher that someone can help me.
Ciao Sabine
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On 6/30/05, Sabine Cretella <sabine_cretella(a)yahoo.it> wrote:
>
> Klaus-Eduard Runnel wrote:
>
> >Maybe someone can think of a way to create automatic links to pages with
> >titles differing just by the case of the first letter? E.g. it would be
> >helpful to have link to "aa" from the article titled "Aa". I have had no
> >success trying to accomplish something like that using the available
> means
> >of mediawiki. That's by the way one of the reasons why not-yet-so-big
> >Estonian wiktionary has not switched over to case-sensitivite first
> letters
> >yet.
> >
> >There could be use for a magic word similar to PAGENAMEE which would
> return
> >the page title with spaces substituted by '+' characters.
> >
> >
> >
> Hi Klaus, as much as I know there is a bot that can revert everything to
> lower case (see the mails of Biron today). So creating all pages in
> lower case should be possible without problems.
Thanks Sabine. Well yes, conversion should not be a problem, and a bot could
also add those see-also links we were thinking of, step-by-step. We just
hoped we could temporarily display a message (possibly using
MediaWiki:Sitenotice) suggesting the user to try the alternatives with the
alternatives listed as direct links or giving a link to a query that would
search for (all kinds of) alternatives.
If you then need help to
> have a look at the German words that often have capital initial letters
> ... let me know.
>
> I noted you already use templates like {{-en-}} so I suppose the
> category for German is there.
We do not have much German words yet, so those can be dealed with manually.
> Do you have a template list somewhere?
We do not have a template guide, although it would be a good idea to have
it. You can check the template list at Special:Allpages
http://et.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Eri%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=10
.
> Ciao, Sabine
Tšau :),
Klaus.
Someone has changed the $wgCapitalLinks setting on en.wiktionary.org,
causing many thousands of links to break without warning -- far too many
for humans to fix up in a reasonable amount of time.
I'm really, really, really annoyed about this, and I'd appreciate it if
whoever made this premature change would at least confess to the deed.
Right now I'm working on an automated script to fix up the links. This
change should *not* have been made before this script was reaady.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Is there any way to add some tag to the wiktionary so that we can get a
count of the number of different languages we have on a wiktionary, and the
number of words in each? For example:
On EN:
This wiktionary has:
English: 50,345 words
German: 4,211 words
Japanese: 123 words
Spanish: 422 words
..
..
And so on.
Is that somehow possible by adding a language tag, say [[lang:en]] and have
the tags identified per wiktionary, so that en shows up as Inglés on
Spanish, Englisch on German, etc.?
Thanks,
James
Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Tim Starling wrote:
>
>> I think we can put the blame on our use of language code lists which are
>> biased towards political rather than linguistic divisions.
>>
>>
> An important observation. In Wiktionary I keep having to beat back
> the argument that a wide assortment of conlangs are acceptable
> because they have been granted a code.
>
> Ec
>
Hoi,
Well actually, you are beating back the arrival of conlangs in the
English wiktionary. It is most definetly not universally accepted that
conlangs should not exist in a Wiktionary. When conlangs do not exist
exept for their occurance in a Wiktionary, that is another matter.
When the spelling of words is different according to where they are
used, the words are definitly needed in both forms and they need to be
in a Wiktionary. Papiamento for instance has two distinct ways of
spelling. It would be stupid NOT to have both official spellings in a
Wiktionary. So when a language code marks a different way of pronouncing
or a different way of spelling, it has its place in Wiktionary. In
Wikipedia you can say things like "both can speak and read their
versions of a language" in a Wiktionary you represent the existing
spelling of words and you are not involved in judging if a spelling is
political correct or not.
In Ultimate Wiktionary, we want to have it a user preference that will
allow you to select what languages you want to add. The languages that
will be allowed to start with will be the ones that have a language
code. Within a language there will be room for distinct spellings. There
will also be room for old spellings; this is particularly relevant for
the Dutch language as it will have new spelling rules that will be
published on October 15 and will be the official spelling from August 1
2006 onwards.
Thanks,
GerardM
Hello everyone,
I'm new to this list, so I hope I'll be able to contribute. I
work mainly on the Anglo-Saxon wiktionary, which now has over 1000 entries!
Thanks,
James
I have been on this list awhile, when i originally joined i was
interesting in the possibility of exporting the wiktionary data as
.dict format. Now that the newest version of OSX 10.4 has a built-in
dictionary that uses the dict:// to look-up words i was interested to
see if anyone on the technicaly side would like to explore the
possibility of either exporting the Wiktionary database as .dict
format, or run a dictionary daemon that would access the wiktionary
database server and return dict entries. It would be read-only, but it
would be another interesting way to access the wiktionary besides the
web interface.
Does anyone on the tech list know if this is even possible? I'm not
asking you to do it (i can write the export), i was wondering if there
is some sort of database schema available to extract the data into
dict format, or are the entries too fragmented to even attempt an
export?
-brian
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Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> I do ask the board: When the Ultimate Wiktionary is life, do we allow
> all and any use of our data and do we allow at least other Open or Free
> organisations to use the content of the UW in their applications without
> restrictions ?
I am very sorry, but I do not understand the question. I support that
people should be able to freely use our data, but as per specific
questions, I don't quite get what you are asking.
--Jimbo
This question came into mind this morning since lately there were some
discussions on this theme on the list (also on the wikipedia list
really) - and there is quite an obvious reason. Instead of writing it
only here in the list I wrote in on my blog as it is read by also other
comunities.
If you would like to know what I wrote, just klick here:
http://sabinecretella.blogspot.com/
I am also adding the same text on my portal http://www.wesolveitnet.com
Ciao, Sabine
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