I don't want to force anything on anyone, but I reallythink that everybody would be better off
here
with a single WP whereall standards is converted and/or accepted.MarkOn
I read all of your e-mails. I thought about this carefully, it's not a whim or anything.
On the matter of unity vs. separateness: Bitter (and sometimes bloody) experience has shown us that any gains made by having a larger number of speakers/writers are more than offset by the energy wasted in petty bickering and/or ill-will generated by the neccessary compromises on many things. Normally, I wouldn't have anything against ill-informed people trying this out one more time for themselves and banging their head against a wall, but in this case I'm interested in the well-being and progress of Croatian Wikipedia.
I tried to put a banner on the Main Page pointing the way to the three other Wikipedias after several people asked me why the Croatian Wikipedia is named "Serbocroatian". You, Dejvid and Pokrajac removed this without a word of explanation, even calling it "vandalism". Now you may or may not be aware of this, but many people from the former Yugoslavia, when they see a project (organization, institution) having a "Serbocroatian" section automatically assume that people there haven't yet switched to the three separate languages and simply turn around and walk away. This is what I'd like to avoid.
Elephantus (from the Croatian Wikipedia)
On the matter of unity vs. separateness: Bitter (and sometimes bloody) experience has shown us that any gains made by having a larger number of speakers/writers are more than offset by the energy wasted in petty bickering and/or ill-will generated by the neccessary compromises on many things. Normally, I wouldn't have anything against ill-informed people trying this out one more time for themselves and banging their head against a wall, but in this case I'm interested in the well-being and progress of Croatian Wikipedia.
"Generated by the neccessary compromises on many things"... do you mean NPOV? NPOV is not optional.
If you mean compromises on which norm is used, that's only a temporary problem.
I tried to put a banner on the Main Page pointing the way to the three other Wikipedias after several people asked me why the Croatian Wikipedia is named "Serbocroatian". You, Dejvid and Pokrajac removed this without a word of explanation, even calling it "vandalism". Now you may or may not be aware of this, but many people from the former Yugoslavia, when they see a project (organization, institution) having a "Serbocroatian" section automatically assume that people there haven't yet switched to the three separate languages and simply turn around and walk away. This is what I'd like to avoid.
Well, someone might as well ask you why the Serbian Ijekavian Latin WP is named "Croatian". Or why the Bosnian WP is named Croatian.
Do you want a huge banner on your front page saying "OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 THESE WIKIPEDIAS ARE ALSO HERE!!!!!!!!!!111111 YOU MAY USE THEM OMG !!! RTLOFLO"? Neither do we.
Mark
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