From: Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Fair use (Alex, Brion et Tarquin) Brion Vibber wrote:

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And remember, folks, *no picture* is much better

than a picture we can't

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redistribute. If you didn't make it with your own

hands or scan it from

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a piece of paper older than 1924, and it doesn't

have a "public domain"

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or "GNU Free Documentation License" note on it,

think twice.

I agree completely with this sentiment. I think we should not be pushing any boundaries with respect to fair use, because of the redistribution issue.

As Alex has been patiently teaching us, fair use is a defense, a defense that depends on the use, and for that reason, and because of our interest in free redistribution, we should take care that when we do rely on fair use, we do so in such a way that almost anyone could rely on a fair use defense for any plausible re-use of our content.

To take the easiest possible example, a quote of a few sentences of a copyrighted novel in an article about the author of that novel. This is fair use for us, and it's also going to be fair use for just about any plausible re-use of our content.

Thanks for revoicing this again Jimbo. That is a point that was raised again a couple of days ago on the fr wiki (I mean...what your position was on the topic, and the level of risk wikimedia was ready to accept)

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It was disabled on the English wikipedia, as

that's where abuses were

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occuring (quite frequently). In any case I would

_discourage_ such

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linking. And there have been enough crazy court

decisions over 'deep

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linking' and such that I wouldn't rely on "it's

just a link to another

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site, we're not _copying it_" for an image

embedded into a web page.

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(IANAL)

Yes, and it's pretty rude to the other webmaster. People often refer to it as 'stealing bandwidth', which may be an overly bold claim, but still, it's not good etiquette to embed an image in that way.

Loo run a query to list all the inline links. There were quite a bunch. There were also a certain nomber of inline links made from the other wikipedia sites, especially meta.

This is probably due to the fact it is a bit painful to "tranfer" a pict from one wikipedia to another, and for some resources (such as flags) it make sense to have a common source of images, not to copy and copy again from the others wikipedias.

I would like to support making impossible to make some inline links on all wikipedias; not english only.

I understood the en took that decision because of goatce.However, as you say, it is not nice for the webmaster and the other web site. Besides, the link may die. Plus, the reader does not know whether he may benefit the ressource. He might come to believe he can just copy the image, and that one be GFDL. It is misleading and dangerous to other one.

Finally, Alex and http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_v._Arriba_Soft_Corporation indicated that it was not necessarily a good idea to use this type of linkage.

Anthere

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