Dear friends, I am linguist, working in a major Brazilian university (UNICAMP), and I have worked with and researched the language of the indigenous people Kaingang more than 30 years. On behalf of a group of teachers, who are native speakers of Kaingang (one of the six indigenous languages of Brazil with the largest number of speakers) would like to request the creation of a Wikipedia in that language. The objectives are: (i) enlarge the democratic character of the web, which the Wikipedia is a model, (ii) give greater visibility to minority languages, and (iii) strengthen the Kaingang language, (iv) encourage the emergence of indigenous writers. I appreciate that you could help us in this endeavor to succeed. Next week we met (myself, with three volunteers students with about 20 Kaingang teachers, in the largest Indian reservation of them, called Guarita, to give way to questions related to this proposal). I await your comments. Regards.
Wilmar da Rocha D'Angelis www.portalkaingang.org
Hoi, I had a look and Kaingang has been recognised as a language, its code is kgp. The place to make your request is on Meta. There are some requirements for new languages, among them is a need for the localisation of the most important messages for MediaWiki, the software that runs Wikipedia. You can start on the incubator, when there is a sufficiently big corpus and when there is continued cooperation on the new project, a new Wikipedia will be added in time. :) Thanks, GerardM
1 http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=kgp 2 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages 3 http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008/12/3 Wilmar DAngelis webindigena@gmail.com
Dear friends, I am linguist, working in a major Brazilian university (UNICAMP), and I have worked with and researched the language of the indigenous people Kaingang more than 30 years. On behalf of a group of teachers, who are native speakers of Kaingang (one of the six indigenous languages of Brazil with the largest number of speakers) would like to request the creation of a Wikipedia in that language. The objectives are: (i) enlarge the democratic character of the web, which the Wikipedia is a model, (ii) give greater visibility to minority languages, and (iii) strengthen the Kaingang language, (iv) encourage the emergence of indigenous writers. I appreciate that you could help us in this endeavor to succeed. Next week we met (myself, with three volunteers students with about 20 Kaingang teachers, in the largest Indian reservation of them, called Guarita, to give way to questions related to this proposal). I await your comments. Regards.
Wilmar da Rocha D'Angelis www.portalkaingang.org _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
Dear GerardM
excuseme because I didn't replay your message before. Thank you for your attention. Surely I will need your (and of others) cooperation in the next months.
Wilmar
2008/12/3 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Hoi, I had a look and Kaingang has been recognised as a language, its code is kgp. The place to make your request is on Meta. There are some requirements for new languages, among them is a need for the localisation of the most important messages for MediaWiki, the software that runs Wikipedia. You can start on the incubator, when there is a sufficiently big corpus and when there is continued cooperation on the new project, a new Wikipedia will be added in time. :) Thanks, GerardM
1 http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=kgp 2 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages 3 http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008/12/3 Wilmar DAngelis webindigena@gmail.com
Dear friends, I am linguist, working in a major Brazilian university (UNICAMP), and I have worked with and researched the language of the indigenous people Kaingang more than 30 years. On behalf of a group of teachers, who are native speakers of Kaingang (one of the six indigenous languages of Brazil with the largest number of speakers) would like to request the creation of a Wikipedia in that language. The objectives are: (i) enlarge the
democratic
character of the web, which the Wikipedia is a model, (ii) give greater visibility to minority languages, and (iii) strengthen the Kaingang language, (iv) encourage the emergence of indigenous writers. I appreciate that you could help us in this endeavor to succeed. Next week we met (myself, with three volunteers students with about 20 Kaingang teachers, in the largest Indian reservation of them, called Guarita, to give way to questions related to this proposal). I await your comments. Regards.
Wilmar da Rocha D'Angelis www.portalkaingang.org _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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29 frimaire an CCXVII (le 19 décembre 2008 d. c.-d. c. g.), 23 h 15 : 19,0 °C...
----- Original Message ----- From: Proj. Webindigena webindigena@gmail.com To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] request for new language: Kaingang
Dear GerardM
Moi, je dirais pas ça.
excuseme because I didn't replay your message before. Thank you for your attention. Surely I will need your (and of others) cooperation in the next months.
Pourquoi attendre les « next months » ?…
Wilmar
Cher Monsieur,
Voilà, c'est fait : rendez-vous à http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kgp. Si vous me permettez deux conseils : ° Commencez par traduire la page principale (en commençant par son nom : « Main Page »…) en kanhgág (et en portugais), en plus du texte standard anglais. ° Ne déposez pas pour l'instant sur Meta de « request for new languages » ; là-bas, il n'y a que des affreux – the Uglies – aussi ignorants qu'arrogants – « IGNARROGANTS » – ; ça leur enlèvera le plaisir de vous rembarrer, à ces haïsseurs de langues.
Si vous le souhaitez, je peux vous faire part, mais plutôt en privé, hein ?, histoire de faire bisquer les Ugliz, d'autres conseils, basés sur mon expérience des Wikipedia actives et inactives et de l'Incubator.
Budelberger, Richard.
2008/12/3 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Hoi, I had a look and Kaingang has been recognised as a language, its code is kgp. The place to make your request is on Meta. There are some requirements for new languages, among them is a need for the localisation of the most important messages for MediaWiki, the software that runs Wikipedia. You can start on the incubator, when there is a sufficiently big corpus and when there is continued cooperation on the new project, a new Wikipedia will be added in time. :) Thanks, GerardM
1 http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=kgp 2 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages 3 http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008/12/3 Wilmar DAngelis webindigena@gmail.com
Dear friends, I am linguist, working in a major Brazilian university (UNICAMP), and I have worked with and researched the language of the indigenous people Kaingang more than 30 years. On behalf of a group of teachers, who are native speakers of Kaingang (one of the six indigenous languages of Brazil with the largest number of speakers) would like to request the creation of a Wikipedia in that language. The objectives are: (i) enlarge the democratic character of the web, which the Wikipedia is a model, (ii) give greater visibility to minority languages, and (iii) strengthen the Kaingang language, (iv) encourage the emergence of indigenous writers. I appreciate that you could help us in this endeavor to succeed. Next week we met (myself, with three volunteers students with about 20 Kaingang teachers, in the largest Indian reservation of them, called Guarita, to give way to questions related to this proposal). I await your comments. Regards.
Wilmar da Rocha D'Angelis www.portalkaingang.org _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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Hoi, By all means start a project at the Incubator. Given that you have a first person interest in starting this project; you know the language and you want to collaborate to it, you will find it to becomes eligible.
So I do invite you to request a language on Meta. Thanks, GerardM
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages
PS As to Mr Budelberger, he wastes peoples time by proposing languages that he does not know and cannot support thereby wasting the time of people who support actively supported languages.
2008/12/19 Budelberger, Richard budelberger.richard@wanadoo.fr
29 frimaire an CCXVII (le 19 décembre 2008 d. c.-d. c. g.), 23 h 15 : 19,0 °C...
----- Original Message ----- From: Proj. Webindigena webindigena@gmail.com To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] request for new language: Kaingang
Dear GerardM
Moi, je dirais pas ça.
excuseme because I didn't replay your message before. Thank you for your attention. Surely I will need your (and of others) cooperation in the next months.
Pourquoi attendre les « next months » ?…Wilmar
Cher Monsieur,
Voilà, c'est fait : rendez-vous à < http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kgp%3E. Si vous me permettez deux conseils : ° Commencez par traduire la page principale (en commençant par son nom : « Main Page »…) en kanhgág (et en portugais), en plus du texte standard anglais. ° Ne déposez pas pour l'instant sur Meta de « request for new languages » ; là-bas, il n'y a que des affreux – the Uglies – aussi ignorants qu'arrogants – « IGNARROGANTS » – ; ça leur enlèvera le plaisir de vous rembarrer, à ces haïsseurs de langues.
Si vous le souhaitez, je peux vous faire part, mais plutôt en privé, hein ?, histoire de faire bisquer les Ugliz, d'autres conseils, basés sur mon expérience des Wikipedia actives et inactives et de l'Incubator.
Budelberger, Richard.
2008/12/3 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Hoi, I had a look and Kaingang has been recognised as a language, its code
is
kgp. The place to make your request is on Meta. There are some
requirements
for new languages, among them is a need for the localisation of the
most
important messages for MediaWiki, the software that runs Wikipedia. You
can
start on the incubator, when there is a sufficiently big corpus and
when
there is continued cooperation on the new project, a new Wikipedia will
be
added in time. :) Thanks, GerardM
1 http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=kgp 2 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages 3 http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008/12/3 Wilmar DAngelis webindigena@gmail.com
Dear friends, I am linguist, working in a major Brazilian university (UNICAMP), and
I
have worked with and researched the language of the indigenous people
Kaingang
more than 30 years. On behalf of a group of teachers, who are native speakers of Kaingang (one of the six indigenous languages of Brazil
with
the largest number of speakers) would like to request the creation of a Wikipedia in that language. The objectives are: (i) enlarge the democratic character of the web, which the Wikipedia is a model, (ii) give
greater
visibility to minority languages, and (iii) strengthen the Kaingang language, (iv) encourage the emergence of indigenous writers. I appreciate that you could help us in this endeavor to succeed. Next week we met (myself, with three volunteers students with about
20
Kaingang teachers, in the largest Indian reservation of them, called Guarita, to give way to questions related to this proposal). I await your comments. Regards.
Wilmar da Rocha D'Angelis www.portalkaingang.org _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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Ambiental
www.kamuri.org.br www.portalkaingang.org
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