29 frimaire an CCXVII (le 19 décembre 2008 d. c.-d. c. g.), 23 h 15 : 19,0 °C...
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From: Proj. Webindigena <webindigena(a)gmail.com>
To: <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] request for new language: Kaingang
Dear GerardM
Moi, je dirais pas ça.
excuseme because I didn't replay your message
before.
Thank you for your attention.
Surely I will need your (and of others) cooperation in the next months.
Pourquoi attendre les « next months » ?…
Wilmar
Cher Monsieur,
Voilà, c'est fait : rendez-vous à
<http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kgp>.
Si vous me permettez deux conseils :
° Commencez par traduire la page principale (en commençant par son nom :
« Main Page »…) en kanhgág (et en portugais), en plus du texte standard anglais.
° Ne déposez pas pour l'instant sur Meta de « request for new languages » ;
là-bas, il n'y a que des affreux – the Uglies – aussi ignorants qu'arrogants –
« IGNARROGANTS » – ; ça leur enlèvera le plaisir de vous rembarrer, à
ces haïsseurs de langues.
Si vous le souhaitez, je peux vous faire part, mais plutôt en privé, hein ?,
histoire de faire bisquer les Ugliz, d'autres conseils, basés sur mon expérience
des Wikipedia actives et inactives et de l'Incubator.
Budelberger, Richard.
2008/12/3 Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
Hoi,
I had a look and Kaingang has been recognised as a language, its code is
kgp. The place to make your request is on Meta. There are some requirements
for new languages, among them is a need for the localisation of the most
important messages for MediaWiki, the software that runs Wikipedia. You can
start on the incubator, when there is a sufficiently big corpus and when
there is continued cooperation on the new project, a new Wikipedia will be
added in time. :)
Thanks,
GerardM
1
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=kgp
2
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages
3
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008/12/3 Wilmar DAngelis <webindigena(a)gmail.com>
Dear friends,
I am linguist, working in a major Brazilian university (UNICAMP), and I
have
worked with and researched the language of the indigenous people Kaingang
more than 30 years. On behalf of a group of teachers, who are native
speakers of Kaingang (one of the six indigenous languages of Brazil with
the
largest number of speakers) would like to request the creation of a
Wikipedia in that language. The objectives are: (i) enlarge the
democratic
character of the web, which the Wikipedia is a model, (ii) give greater
visibility to minority languages, and (iii) strengthen the Kaingang
language, (iv) encourage the emergence of indigenous writers.
I appreciate that you could help us in this endeavor to succeed.
Next week we met (myself, with three volunteers students with about 20
Kaingang teachers, in the largest Indian reservation of them, called
Guarita, to give way to questions related to this proposal).
I await your comments.
Regards.
Wilmar da Rocha D'Angelis
www.portalkaingang.org
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