I'm amazed at the poor quality of the English Wiktionary, it seems to miss so many important English words. Most new pages seem to be slang, jargon, and people adding a few dozen words from their native tongue. Plans to import a public domain dictionary were abandoned, and now there seems to be little organisation or direction. Perhaps Wiktionary can be revitalised with extra features, but I doubt stylesheet changes will be enough. It needs a different look and a whole raft of features. It needs methods for easily adding new words, and for categorisation and listing. But I'm neither excited by the project nor optimistic about its future. So most of all, it needs people who want to work on it.
-- Tim Starling
I think the reason for this is that a dictionary cannot really take advantage of the wiki structure. Consider the dense interlinking that occurs in any decent encyclopedia article; how would something like that be useful, or even apply, in a dictionary? An encyclopedia is, I think, ideally suited to the wiki format--that's why all those predictions of "7 years to 100,000 articles!" seem hopelessly naive. Wikipedia took off because it's the best type of structure to exploit its format, and that attracted contributors. In Wiktionary, you're basically just asking people to write an online dictionary, and the wiki concept is less useful to them.
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Dan Miller wrote:
I think the reason for this is that a dictionary cannot really take advantage of the wiki structure. Consider the dense interlinking that occurs in any decent encyclopedia article; how would something like that be useful, or even apply, in a dictionary?
I'm not sure I follow this train of thought. There may be fewer links per Wiktionary entry on average as in a Wikipedia article, but it is still pretty densely interlinked. E.g. [[Golden eagle]]:
=== Noun === '''[[golden]] [[eagle]]'''
# A [[bird]] [[species]] of the [[family]] ''[[Accipitridae]]'', [[genus]] ''[[Aquila]]''.
====Scientific name==== * [[Aquila chrysaetos]]
9 links! ;-) In Wikipedia, you get less links per sentence because in an encyclopedia the links should go to articles that are relevant to the context. In a dictionary, the links just go to words, so theoretically you could link absolutely every word! (Of course, I don't think every word should be linked, but just about every word that someone might conceivably want to look up. Someone unfamiliar with taxonomy might want to look up "species", "family" and "genus" in the above.)
Timwi
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9 links! ;-) In Wikipedia, you get less links per sentence because in an encyclopedia the links should go to articles that are relevant to the context. In a dictionary, the links just go to words, so theoretically you could link absolutely every word! (Of course, I don't think every word should be linked, but just about every word that someone might conceivably want to look up. Someone unfamiliar with taxonomy might want to look up "species", "family" and "genus" in the above.)
Why should not every word be a link? We could change the stylesheet to leave links the same a text, and automatically let every word be a link, without necessity for the [[syntax]]. Names could redirect to the Wikipedia, and it would make editing easier. After all, each word deserves an entry... what do you think?
BTW, I agree with the original poster about the Wiktionairy problem.
Gerrit.
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